I see the copper tool prices have increased a bit. But they are still cheaper than in ireland.

www.kupferspuren.at/en/kupferwerkzeuge/large-tools/orion.html

And victor Schauberger designed a mole plough in copper too, that was a revolutionary plough at the time, but expensive to make apparently.

Griswald wrote:
They are expensive but I bet you can buy one of those spades really cheaply in Hungary, now I have seen some better close, up's of them I recon I could make one for 30 quid or so, I will get to it next week.

What I have noticed using copper dibbers is much healthier seedlings compared to using my fingers to make to hole in the soil, it definately works and the copper kills any natural pathogens in the soil as does the heat gained in the composting process.

We use a 50/50 soil/compost mixture seived finely to remove any of the larger obsticles that the minute seedlings will have to push out of their way as they emmerge.

The Apprentice wrote:

I know here years ago the stuff used for treating spuds, tomatoes ect was, copper sulphate. After a spraying with this stuff, the plants took on a new energy for growth, and the yields were amazing. It was extremely cheap, could be bought from a chemist, and worked. Then the propaganda went around that it was unsuitable for garden vedge, did harm to your health, and here is a better product, bigger prices blah blah.

My uncle planted his garden from a youth to well in his 70,s, and used nothing but copper sulphate. He had the largest crop yields every year, and never treated his plot at all, with artificial fertilisers. he swore that his crop yields were due to copper sulphate. So this year I managed to track it down at long last. Its now sold as Bordeaux Mixture, and I,m told it works wonders. So I,ll read it well before spraying though.

Schaubergers enobled water is an excellent method of introducing copper into the soil as well.

gris

Bye bye veg thread, Dad's gotta go. Good luck.

dubmeup wrote:
If your watching Dub.

www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=...9rf-omvZ5BbB0c0f4HTQ

The Apprentice wrote:

I checked the tobacco plants today in the polytunnel.
Those that have been in the tunnel from germination, have far out performed those that were germinated in the house, and kept in for a bout 4 weeks, before being placed in the tunnel.

And those seeds that naturally germinated from the plant pods in the tunnel, without any human intervention, have done very well. next thing for me to do in the next couple of days is to pot on those seedlings that are ready. And into a big pot as well, because now is the time when these buggers grow with a vengeance.

griswald

Yep mine have litterally doubled in size during the last two hot days after being in the window sill for a fortnight, these babies sure like it hot the hotter the better, unlike the celery that a few got cooked but in a way its the survival of the fittest in nature, let the unwilling and unwanton go the way fore sure.

Just been riddling.out the last of the compost bin this morning and what a collection.of wildlife in there, every fill a centepede and ground beetles galore, a micro climate in itself, truly amazing every year the same.

I missed a few pots from some of the rows last year and boy have they grown much.faster than the new ones again nature just waiting to catch you by surprise, the whole garden has come to life at last everything through in the greenhouses too.

Ain't life and nature the cure from within the zone.

Griswald wrote:

After Apprentice and Gris alerted me to copper, I also got found my way to Victor Schauberger. It's interesting to see him discussed and tested here again. It was said in one of the documentaries that I saw, that also using crushed rocks makes plants grow amazingly. My question is this: Is this just any rock and has anyone experience of this?

Hello Apprentice, I've just seen you're online. A little birdie told me you'd flown to this forum.

If you hav'nt seen this film yet I suggest you do

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I've just seen the film, truly fascinating. I've visited India and it was a place that truly changed me for good. It was incredible to see a mainly vegetarian nation and how they lived. It's also good that someone is managing so effectively to go up against Monsanto.

The Apprentice wrote:
Hi Icke, welcome to the garden

I know the guy you are on about that does the gardening using rock dust. He is based somewhere in the north of England, and I,ve seen a few documnetaries about his gardening techniques, on a hillside, with soil of poor quality.

But his use of stone dust, normally caalled crush run here, has had amazing results on his vegetables. The dust is nothing special, as it can be sourced at any local quarry where he is based. So a quick google on the local geological info, will probably turn up the details of whats being crushed. the crush run dust is normally used to fill and bed cobble lock paving, that sort of thing.

I,ve recently had a well bored to over 300 feet, and had about 2-3 ton of crush drillings from the well. The rock bored through was limestone, so I effectively have 2-3 tons of limestone dust. I have put about 2 cup fulls into a 2 gallon bucket, mixed it up into a milky white liquid, and spread it on my cabbage, broccoli.....and they have gone mental with growth.

Victor Schauberger, a long time favourite of mine, his knowledge of the natural environment is an amazing thing that he has left us. I,ve ploughed with a copper plough, and continue to do so, because of the results. Copper is king in the garden