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Re: Plantary resources 07 May 2012 22:59 #41

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Oh, no disagreement taken. :)

Most interesting discourse on this thread. :helios:
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Re: Plantary resources 08 May 2012 08:00 #42

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Mrindigo wrote:
domathy wrote:
Mrindigo wrote:
Coco wrote:
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Ever since I heard of the realistic idea to space mine almost a month ago, I've been reminded of the tale of beings from another planet come to Earth (a very long ago) to mine precious resources resulting in their creation of modern Man.

Kinda makes me wonder if we 'children' of these beings are now starting to increasingly imitate our 'parents'.

Also this account about The Ram-Sethu or Adam's Brige, or Rama's Bridge: The Ram-Sethu being built by the monkey - army under the supervision of 'Nalan.....

Just a thought.

If there is something to those stories, then I would surmise that those beings wouldn't have been much more technologically advanced than we are today. That might indicate that they were from a fairly near planet, or maybe of this planet. I don't see a super advanced interstellar species needing to do that, as asteroid mining would have higher mineral/metal-alloy yields. Robots would be ideal for that as well. They don't need to eat, sleep, can withstand temperatures that known biological creatures couldn't handle, and large amounts of radiation.

I think Coco is referring to the Annunaki, who supposedly genetically manipulated humans to mine gold for them (they need gold for some reason apparently - hence why Fort Knox is full of tungsten blanks), and this explains why there is evidence of gold mining some 10,000 yrs ago in Africa (why primative people would mine for gold which is dangerous, complicated and very difficult without good reason is beyond me). Humans were created to be biological robots and to be clever enough to mine gold, but dumb enough to be controlled, according to the theory.

Yeah, I'm familiar with Sitchin and Sumerian tablets. If there was an advanced species that genetically modified a workforce, I don't think they were from a distant solar-system/Galaxy/Dimension. Logically they would have been from a neighboring planet, or this planet. There appears to be more ambiguous information/evidence for them being ultraterrestrials. A super advanced species capable of interstellar travel wouldn't need to mine planets or create a genetically modified workforce. So basically I wasn't disagreeing with Coco, or even you. Andy and myself were just narrowing down possibilities.

Same as Coco :)

And tbh i hadnt really tried to work out the practicalities or logistics using my logial mind as there may be so many unknowns involved. For instance, this other species may be able to cover huge distances with little effort, using star gates or something - so distance might not be an issue. Maybe gold isnt so abundant and theyre prepared to travel to get what they need. I had the idea that maybe they have hundreds of gold mining operations all rounng the universe, then they just do a circuit (in their massive spaceship moon) harvesting the gold en route. Maybe it takes 10,000 yrs to do a full circuit, which allows the civilizations to 'recover' from their previous visit. Just like a bee visiting flowers. Who knows.
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Re: Plantary resources 08 May 2012 08:27 #43

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domathy wrote:
Mrindigo wrote:
domathy wrote:
Mrindigo wrote:
Coco wrote:
Mr. I,

Ever since I heard of the realistic idea to space mine almost a month ago, I've been reminded of the tale of beings from another planet come to Earth (a very long ago) to mine precious resources resulting in their creation of modern Man.

Kinda makes me wonder if we 'children' of these beings are now starting to increasingly imitate our 'parents'.

Also this account about The Ram-Sethu or Adam's Brige, or Rama's Bridge: The Ram-Sethu being built by the monkey - army under the supervision of 'Nalan.....

Just a thought.

If there is something to those stories, then I would surmise that those beings wouldn't have been much more technologically advanced than we are today. That might indicate that they were from a fairly near planet, or maybe of this planet. I don't see a super advanced interstellar species needing to do that, as asteroid mining would have higher mineral/metal-alloy yields. Robots would be ideal for that as well. They don't need to eat, sleep, can withstand temperatures that known biological creatures couldn't handle, and large amounts of radiation.

I think Coco is referring to the Annunaki, who supposedly genetically manipulated humans to mine gold for them (they need gold for some reason apparently - hence why Fort Knox is full of tungsten blanks), and this explains why there is evidence of gold mining some 10,000 yrs ago in Africa (why primative people would mine for gold which is dangerous, complicated and very difficult without good reason is beyond me). Humans were created to be biological robots and to be clever enough to mine gold, but dumb enough to be controlled, according to the theory.

Yeah, I'm familiar with Sitchin and Sumerian tablets. If there was an advanced species that genetically modified a workforce, I don't think they were from a distant solar-system/Galaxy/Dimension. Logically they would have been from a neighboring planet, or this planet. There appears to be more ambiguous information/evidence for them being ultraterrestrials. A super advanced species capable of interstellar travel wouldn't need to mine planets or create a genetically modified workforce. So basically I wasn't disagreeing with Coco, or even you. Andy and myself were just narrowing down possibilities.

Same as Coco :)

And tbh i hadnt really tried to work out the practicalities or logistics using my logial mind as there may be so many unknowns involved. For instance, this other species may be able to cover huge distances with little effort, using star gates or something - so distance might not be an issue. Maybe gold isnt so abundant and theyre prepared to travel to get what they need. I had the idea that maybe they have hundreds of gold mining operations all rounng the universe, then they just do a circuit (in their massive spaceship moon) harvesting the gold en route. Maybe it takes 10,000 yrs to do a full circuit, which allows the civilizations to 'recover' from their previous visit. Just like a bee visiting flowers. Who knows.

Those are some angles I hadn't considered. As far as I'm concerned, the universe is infinitely possible. For all I know, it happens exactly like this.
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Re: Plantary resources 08 May 2012 18:50 #44

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Mrindigo wrote:
domathy wrote:
Mrindigo wrote:
domathy wrote:
Mrindigo wrote:
Coco wrote:
Mr. I,

Ever since I heard of the realistic idea to space mine almost a month ago, I've been reminded of the tale of beings from another planet come to Earth (a very long ago) to mine precious resources resulting in their creation of modern Man.

Kinda makes me wonder if we 'children' of these beings are now starting to increasingly imitate our 'parents'.

Also this account about The Ram-Sethu or Adam's Brige, or Rama's Bridge: The Ram-Sethu being built by the monkey - army under the supervision of 'Nalan.....

Just a thought.

If there is something to those stories, then I would surmise that those beings wouldn't have been much more technologically advanced than we are today. That might indicate that they were from a fairly near planet, or maybe of this planet. I don't see a super advanced interstellar species needing to do that, as asteroid mining would have higher mineral/metal-alloy yields. Robots would be ideal for that as well. They don't need to eat, sleep, can withstand temperatures that known biological creatures couldn't handle, and large amounts of radiation.

I think Coco is referring to the Annunaki, who supposedly genetically manipulated humans to mine gold for them (they need gold for some reason apparently - hence why Fort Knox is full of tungsten blanks), and this explains why there is evidence of gold mining some 10,000 yrs ago in Africa (why primative people would mine for gold which is dangerous, complicated and very difficult without good reason is beyond me). Humans were created to be biological robots and to be clever enough to mine gold, but dumb enough to be controlled, according to the theory.

Yeah, I'm familiar with Sitchin and Sumerian tablets. If there was an advanced species that genetically modified a workforce, I don't think they were from a distant solar-system/Galaxy/Dimension. Logically they would have been from a neighboring planet, or this planet. There appears to be more ambiguous information/evidence for them being ultraterrestrials. A super advanced species capable of interstellar travel wouldn't need to mine planets or create a genetically modified workforce. So basically I wasn't disagreeing with Coco, or even you. Andy and myself were just narrowing down possibilities.

Same as Coco :)

And tbh i hadnt really tried to work out the practicalities or logistics using my logial mind as there may be so many unknowns involved. For instance, this other species may be able to cover huge distances with little effort, using star gates or something - so distance might not be an issue. Maybe gold isnt so abundant and theyre prepared to travel to get what they need. I had the idea that maybe they have hundreds of gold mining operations all rounng the universe, then they just do a circuit (in their massive spaceship moon) harvesting the gold en route. Maybe it takes 10,000 yrs to do a full circuit, which allows the civilizations to 'recover' from their previous visit. Just like a bee visiting flowers. Who knows.

Those are some angles I hadn't considered. As far as I'm concerned, the universe is infinitely possible. For all I know, it happens exactly like this.

I wonder if we ever live to find the answer. Either way Im sure there is life out there, and im also sure we will end up mining asteroid belts etc. I just hope they dont dig around too much in Uranus :facepalm: Im all for terraforming if its in the context of spreading benevolence and wisdom across the universe, as opposed to just acting like a virus finding a new host to infect.
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Re: Plantary resources 10 May 2012 21:45 #45

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domathy wrote:
I wonder if we ever live to find the answer. Either way Im sure there is life out there, and im also sure we will end up mining asteroid belts etc. I just hope they dont dig around too much in Uranus :facepalm: Im all for terraforming if its in the context of spreading benevolence and wisdom across the universe, as opposed to just acting like a virus finding a new host to infect.

Agreed! Right now, much of the human population does seem to emulate the behavior of a virus. Consumer based economics doesn't exactly help either. I've read theories that this planet is quarantined to prevent us from spreading like cosmic locusts. I wouldn't be surprised if that were true to be honest.

The idea of asteroid mining is good, but I don't think it should be an excuse to continue with our wasteful and excessive lifestyles. I'd much rather see asteroids mined out, and the resources accumulated and used in a sustainable and efficient system. The idea would be to push the resources as far as possible with the preservation of planetary wildlife and the continuity of our species.
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