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TOPIC: British Tax Authorities Just Out-Mafia'd The IRS

British Tax Authorities Just Out-Mafia'd The IRS 21 Mar 2014 22:48 #1

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Surprised you guys haven't picked up on this one....
We all know the stories. The IRS has nearly infinite power to do whatever it wants, including freezing you out of your own bank account without so much as a phone call, let alone due process.

In the Land of the Free, people think they’re innocent until proven guilty. This is total BS. If you are only suspected of wrongdoing, you can be locked out of your entire savings.

This is an incredible amount of authority to wield.

But the British government has just gone even further.

Buried in its most recent budget package is a curt little paragraph that reads “The Government will modernise and strengthen [the tax agency's] debt collection powers to recover financial assets from the bank accounts of debtors who owe over £1,000 of tax.”

Read that one more time just to let it sink in.

The British government is setting an absurdly low threshold at £1,000… about $1,650 in back taxes.

And they’re saying that if the tax authorities believe you owe even just a minor tax debt, they will not only FREEZE your assets, they’ll dip into your bank account and TAKE whatever they want.

Judge, jury, and executioner. They get to decide in their sole discretion if you owe them money, and they get to take as much as they want to satisfy the debt.

It’s unbelievable.

I can’t even begin to imagine why any Brit in his/her right mind would continue to hold a substantial amount of savings in UK banks.

Much more here
www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-21/britis...-just-out-mafiad-irs

What worries me about the wording is not just your bank accounts...but ASSETS. The HMRC are the new VAT man, and we know what kind of bastards they are...they have more power than the police.

Mhmmm......Cyprus coming stealthily to a country near you......

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British Tax Authorities Just Out-Mafia'd The IRS 21 Mar 2014 22:56 #2

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I hadn't seen this, but it's reported here:

www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/news/article...d-taxman-Budget.html
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British Tax Authorities Just Out-Mafia'd The IRS 22 Mar 2014 00:28 #3

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Wow the bit I find scary about that report is that it also applies to anyone owing tax credits.

I know several people who have in the past recieved letters out of the blue saying that they have been overpayed over a £1,000 in tax credits. These overpayments have without fail been caused by HMRC mistakes and complexities in the system, but once they say youv'e been overpaid you have a hell of a job getting that decision reversed. I have a relative who no longer claims the tax credits she is entitled to because HMRC got it wrong so many times and kept coming to her with demands for money she didn't have. Non of these people I mention are in anyway rich or fraudsters, just people stuggling to raise thier families on meager incomes.

You can bet your bottom dollar the Govmt will be going after the low hanging fruit first - that is all the poor people who arn't shielded by accountants and lawyers.
Last Edit: 22 Mar 2014 00:38 by Quality Street. Reason: Changed DWP to HMRC
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British Tax Authorities Just Out-Mafia'd The IRS 22 Mar 2014 08:56 #4

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Quality Street wrote:
You can bet your bottom dollar the Govmt will be going after the low hanging fruit first - that is all the poor people who arn't shielded by accountants and lawyers.
Absolutely.
Several years ago I got a letter from HMRC saying i owed them 4k and had to pay within 7 days. I contacted them and got it resolved fairly quickly (I didn't owe it). But with this new development, anyone finding themselves in that position will most likely find their accounts frozen and raided.
They'll then have to face the daunting task of getting it undone. As we all know, HMRC is very very quick to take your cash and very very slow when it comes to giving you cash.

There is a vital point here. This is another example of governments and corporations working so closely together that you couldn't get a silver rizla between them. Now what is that called again?
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British Tax Authorities Just Out-Mafia'd The IRS 22 Mar 2014 10:01 #5

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It's also the word assets that worries me. For example, take a working family in their own home, on WTC....if they have nothing in the bank...will they be able to put a charge against your home?

More importantly....why don't they go after all the corporation tax owed to them?

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British Tax Authorities Just Out-Mafia'd The IRS 22 Mar 2014 11:38 #6

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angelchemuel wrote:
It's also the word assets that worries me. For example, take a working family in their own home, on WTC....if they have nothing in the bank...will they be able to put a charge against your home?

More importantly....why don't they go after all the corporation tax owed to them?

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There is no corporation tax 'owed' to them :)

Not unless they change the law about taxation collectively along with every other government on the planet.
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British Tax Authorities Just Out-Mafia'd The IRS 22 Mar 2014 14:35 #7

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angelchemuel wrote:
It's also the word assets that worries me. For example, take a working family in their own home, on WTC....if they have nothing in the bank...will they be able to put a charge against your home?
It is claimed that they will never reduce the balance of anyone's account to less than £5,000.

The government just going around snooping in people's bank accounts over some trivial issue is another matter, of course.
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