When it comes to bullshit, big-time, major league bullshit, you have to stand in awe of the all-time champion of false promises and exaggerated claims, religion. No contest. No contest. Religion. Religion easily has the greatest bullshit story ever told. Think about it. Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man living in the sky who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time!
But He loves you. He loves you, and He needs money! He always needs money! He's all-powerful, all-perfect, all-knowing, and all-wise, somehow just can't handle money! Religion takes in billions of dollars, they pay no taxes, and they always need a little more. Now, you talk about a good bullshit story. Holy Shit!
But I want you to know something, this is sincere, I want you to know, when it comes to believing in God, I really tried. I really, really tried. I tried to believe that there is a God, who created each of us in His own image and likeness, loves us very much, and keeps a close eye on things. I really tried to believe that, but I gotta tell you, the longer you live, the more you look around, the more you realize, something is fucked up.
Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed. Results like these do not belong on the résumé of a Supreme Being. This is the kind of shit you'd expect from an office temp with a bad attitude. And just between you and me, in any decently-run universe, this guy would've been out on his all-powerful ass a long time ago. And by the way, I say "this guy", because I firmly believe, looking at these results, that if there is a God, it has to be a man.
No woman could or would ever fuck things up like this. So, if there is a God, I think most reasonable people might agree that he's at least incompetent, and maybe, just maybe, doesn't give a shit. Doesn't give a shit, which I admire in a person, and which would explain a lot of these bad results.
So rather than be just another mindless religious robot, mindlessly and aimlessly and blindly believing that all of this is in the hands of some spooky incompetent father figure who doesn't give a shit, I decided to look around for something else to worship. Something I could really count on.
And immediately, I thought of the sun. Happened like that. Overnight I became a sun-worshipper. Well, not overnight, you can't see the sun at night. But first thing the next morning, I became a sun-worshipper. Several reasons. First of all, I can see the sun, okay? Unlike some other gods I could mention, I can actually see the sun. I'm big on that. If I can see something, I don't know, it kind of helps the credibility along, you know? So everyday I can see the sun, as it gives me everything I need; heat, light, food, flowers in the park, reflections on the lake, an occasional skin cancer, but hey. At least there are no crucifixions, and we're not setting people on fire simply because they don't agree with us.
Sun worship is fairly simple. There's no mystery, no miracles, no pageantry, no one asks for money, there are no songs to learn, and we don't have a special building where we all gather once a week to compare clothing. And the best thing about the sun, it never tells me I'm unworthy. Doesn't tell me I'm a bad person who needs to be saved. Hasn't said an unkind word. Treats me fine. So, I worship the sun. But, I don't pray to the sun. Know why? I wouldn't presume on our friendship. It's not polite.
I've often thought people treat God rather rudely, don't you? Asking trillions and trillions of prayers every day. Asking and pleading and begging for favors. Do this, gimme that, I need a new car, I want a better job. And most of this praying takes place on Sunday His day off. It's not nice. And it's no way to treat a friend.
But people do pray, and they pray for a lot of different things, you know, your sister needs an operation on her crotch, your brother was arrested for defecating in a mall. But most of all, you'd really like to fuck that hot little redhead down at the convenience store. You know, the one with the eyepatch and the clubfoot? Can you pray for that? I think you'd have to. And I say, fine. Pray for anything you want. Pray for anything, but what about the Divine Plan?
Remember that? The Divine Plan. Long time ago, God made a Divine Plan. Gave it a lot of thought, decided it was a good plan, put it into practice. And for billions and billions of years, the Divine Plan has been doing just fine. Now, you come along, and pray for something. Well suppose the thing you want isn't in God's Divine Plan? What do you want Him to do? Change His plan? Just for you? Doesn't it seem a little arrogant? It's a Divine Plan. What's the use of being God if every run-down shmuck with a two-dollar prayerbook can come along and fuck up Your Plan?
And here's something else, another problem you might have: Suppose your prayers aren't answered. What do you say? "Well, it's God's will." "Thy Will Be Done." Fine, but if it's God's will, and He's going to do what He wants to anyway, why the fuck bother praying in the first place? Seems like a big waste of time to me! Couldn't you just skip the praying part and go right to His Will? It's all very confusing.
So to get around a lot of this, I decided to worship the sun. But, as I said, I don't pray to the sun. You know who I pray to? Joe Pesci. Two reasons: First of all, I think he's a good actor, okay? To me, that counts. Second, he looks like a guy who can get things done. Joe Pesci doesn't fuck around. In fact, Joe Pesci came through on a couple of things that God was having trouble with.
For years I asked God to do something about my noisy neighbor with the barking dog, Joe Pesci straightened that cocksucker out with one visit. It's amazing what you can accomplish with a simple baseball bat.
So I've been praying to Joe for about a year now. And I noticed something. I noticed that all the prayers I used to offer to God, and all the prayers I now offer to Joe Pesci, are being answered at about the same 50% rate. Half the time I get what I want, half the time I don't. Same as God, 50-50. Same as the four-leaf clover and the horseshoe, the wishing well and the rabbit's foot, same as the Mojo Man, same as the Voodoo Lady who tells you your fortune by squeezing the goat's testicles, it's all the same: 50-50. So just pick your superstition, sit back, make a wish, and enjoy yourself.
And for those of you who look to The Bible for moral lessons and literary qualities, I might suggest a couple of other stories for you. You might want to look at the Three Little Pigs, that's a good one. Has a nice happy ending, I'm sure you'll like that. Then there's Little Red Riding Hood, although it does have that X-rated part where the Big Bad Wolf actually eats the grandmother. Which I didn't care for, by the way. And finally, I've always drawn a great deal of moral comfort from Humpty Dumpty. The part I like the best? "All the king's horses and all the king's men couldn't put Humpty Dumpty back together again." That's because there is no Humpty Dumpty, and there is no God. None, not one, no God, never was.
In fact, I'm gonna put it this way. If there is a God, may he strike this audience dead! See? Nothing happened. Nothing happened? Everybody's okay? All right, tell you what, I'll raise the stakes a little bit. If there is a God, may he strike me dead. See? Nothing happened, oh, wait, I've got a little cramp in my leg. And my balls hurt. Plus, I'm blind. I'm blind, oh, now I'm okay again, must have been Joe Pesci, huh? God Bless Joe Pesci. Thank you all very much. Joe Bless You!
"Like a lotus flower that grows out of the mud and blossoms above the muddy water surface,
we can rise above our defilements and sufferings of life" - Buddhist Value
Its a bit like saying someone who never goes to church and hasn't a clue about christianity but gives pressies to kids at christmas is a 'christian'.
Its a load of bollocks. They're agnostic/atheist and hand some pressies round once a year.
Same goes for a lot of these so called jewish people in america and even in israel itself, they just don't give a shit about religion anymore and as such can no longer be said to be jewish.
The idea that they are somehow different is simply because 'ish' is on the end of the word lol.
There are obviously multiple races, languages, social stratification and all sorts of stuff, so if you want to be accurate at all the ONLY definition you can give is jews are those who follow the jewish faith, if they don't then they're either some other religion or agnostic/atheist and then whatever nationality or racial type they happen to be.
There is no 'jewish bloodline' anymore, that went out the window donkeys years ago, just as there is no christian or muslim bloodline or christian nationality or muslim nationality...the very concept is laughable to even consider.
“Fascists are not human. A snake is more human.” - Hugo Chávez
While I agree with you in theory, I think in practice that this is very much how every ethnic and religious group operates.
Orthodox Christian Priests will generally speak on behalf what they feel their responsibility extends to. If he were to speak on behalf of Muslims or atheists he would probably be put in his place rather quickly.
How many times does CNN report conflicts in the ME as causing wide collateral damage and killing three Americans, even though both terms relate to people dying?
While Jewish communities can be isolationist and insular, they are hardly uniquely so and in the current climate, this is very understandable.
Well, this is how I see it, and I just say it as I see it.
I’m the most liberal person you’re going to meet, and I would love to sit here and say, for example, that Jewish people and Muslims get on with each other, mix together, and for that matter mix with the general population, but if I said that then I would simply be lying. Because I’ve seen with my own eyes that they don’t.
At the same time, the claims made by the ‘far-right’ that they hate each other and are constantly on the verge of killing each other don’t ring remotely true either.
But it’s precisely this attitude of “my Jewish community” that follows “my culture” and of “our Jewish institutions” that is keeping people apart. This separatist and tribal attitude is deeply unhealthy. That’s why Jewish people and Muslim people live in little ghettos in Manchester, never mixing with anyone outside their little cliques. And I’m 100% certain that if you told this to some well-meaning Guardian reader they’d attempt to deny that this is the case. But it is the case.
If things are ever going to evolve then we need one community of human-beings, with as many different cultures as there are human-beings, who care about everyone equally and don’t elevate someone in importance because they’re from a common national, ethnic or religious background, nor elevate one form of practices or behaviour over another.
It’s this attitude which is reflected in Israel’s occupation of Palestine, for example, because while there is a lot of economic and political power involved in this, fundamentally it is allowed to go on and still does go on because everyday Israelis do not recognise the basic rights of Palestinians. They elevate the rights of “their own people” over this oppressed nation. Of course, there are many examples of Arabian people being prejudiced against Jews as well.
For me, it’s got to stop and it’s got to change otherwise we’ll go round in ever decreasing circles forever.
The true measure of a man is not his intelligence or how high he rises in this freak establishment. The true measure of a man is this: how quickly he can respond to the needs of others and how much of himself he can give - Philip K. Dick.
WHO "beats" them and persecutes them?
That's the question.
WHO?
It is much like what is going on today with celebrities and all... All follow Gaga and Biber and likes because they are in your face and you're told to that it's a trendy thing to do... Same applies to hatred, which was engraved in THE book, for that same reason. It's a mass social experiment and whoever thought of it, succeeded.
We weren't born to hate a specific nation or race, we were TAUGHT to hate, and it easily can be undone, if you see through the veil, but also takes some working from the so called persecuted group. Saying "we are persecuted" over and over just fuels the fire. Basic psychology... You don't use negatives to remove negatives, you gotta use positives and completely eliminate negatives, if that makes any sense.
"Like a lotus flower that grows out of the mud and blossoms above the muddy water surface,
we can rise above our defilements and sufferings of life" - Buddhist Value
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Rabbi of Kiev: Jews flee now
09 Mar 2014 01:57 #67
Its a bit like saying someone who never goes to church and hasn't a clue about christianity but gives pressies to kids at christmas is a 'christian'.
Its a load of bollocks. They're agnostic/atheist and hand some pressies round once a year.
Same goes for a lot of these so called jewish people in america and even in israel itself, they just don't give a shit about religion anymore and as such can no longer be said to be jewish.
The idea that they are somehow different is simply because 'ish' is on the end of the word lol.
There are obviously multiple races, languages, social stratification and all sorts of stuff, so if you want to be accurate at all the ONLY definition you can give is jews are those who follow the jewish faith, if they don't then they're either some other religion or agnostic/atheist and then whatever nationality or racial type they happen to be.
There is no 'jewish bloodline' anymore, that went out the window donkeys years ago, just as there is no christian or muslim bloodline or christian nationality or muslim nationality...the very concept is laughable to even consider.
I think much of it also has to do with how one wishes to be identified, and some will attach themselves to such a group for a number of reasons even if they don't practice the core beliefs. I know quite a few people who identify themselves as 'Christian' but that's about as far as anything they have to do with religion.
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Rabbi of Kiev: Jews flee now
09 Mar 2014 01:58 #68
Weird: David Icke kept stealing Bill Hicks lines and now rense.com of Jeff Rense is quoting large tracts of George Carlin.
Do either of those two wingnuts or their readers know that Bill Hicks described himself as "Chomsky with Dick Jokes" and George Carlin was strongly anti-conservative.
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Rabbi of Kiev: Jews flee now
09 Mar 2014 02:02 #69
Its a bit like saying someone who never goes to church and hasn't a clue about christianity but gives pressies to kids at christmas is a 'christian'.
Its a load of bollocks. They're agnostic/atheist and hand some pressies round once a year.
Same goes for a lot of these so called jewish people in america and even in israel itself, they just don't give a shit about religion anymore and as such can no longer be said to be jewish.
The idea that they are somehow different is simply because 'ish' is on the end of the word lol.
There are obviously multiple races, languages, social stratification and all sorts of stuff, so if you want to be accurate at all the ONLY definition you can give is jews are those who follow the jewish faith, if they don't then they're either some other religion or agnostic/atheist and then whatever nationality or racial type they happen to be.
There is no 'jewish bloodline' anymore, that went out the window donkeys years ago, just as there is no christian or muslim bloodline or christian nationality or muslim nationality...the very concept is laughable to even consider.
I think much of it also has to do with how one wishes to be identified, and some will attach themselves to such a group for a number of reasons even if they don't practice the core beliefs. I know quite a few people who identify themselves as 'Christian' but that's about as far as anything they have to do with religion.
They can say whatever they like, it won't change the facts
There's far too many people who identify with being christian for example, its high time they admit that they are not christian.
I may aswell say I'm African because my ancestors came from there
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Rabbi of Kiev: Jews flee now
09 Mar 2014 02:03 #70
It’s this attitude which is reflected in Israel’s occupation of Palestine, for example, because while there is a lot of economic and political power involved in this, fundamentally it is allowed to go on and still does go on because everyday Israelis do not recognise the basic rights of Palestinians. They elevate the rights of “their own people” over this oppressed nation. Of course, there are many examples of Arabian people being prejudiced against Jews as well.
You probably know my opposition to Israel's illegal occupation. I'm glad you bring it up because it allows me to return to the question I raised in the OP and then later: why is Israel, which is so very quick to condemn anything it perceives as anti-Semitic, in this case eerily quiet about, what is effectively a fucking disaster for thousands of Ukrainian Jews?
Why is the ADL not screaming from the rooftops?
Where is the famous Jewish Lobby?
It seems that the US is the dog and Israel is the tail after all, eh?
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Rabbi of Kiev: Jews flee now
09 Mar 2014 02:06 #71
"Like a lotus flower that grows out of the mud and blossoms above the muddy water surface,
we can rise above our defilements and sufferings of life" - Buddhist Value
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09 Mar 2014 02:06 #72
It’s this attitude which is reflected in Israel’s occupation of Palestine, for example, because while there is a lot of economic and political power involved in this, fundamentally it is allowed to go on and still does go on because everyday Israelis do not recognise the basic rights of Palestinians. They elevate the rights of “their own people” over this oppressed nation. Of course, there are many examples of Arabian people being prejudiced against Jews as well.
You probably know my opposition to Israel's illegal occupation. I'm glad you bring it up because it allows me to return to the question I raised in the OP and then later: why is Israel, which is so very quick to condemn anything it perceives as anti-Semitic, in this case eerily quiet about, what is effectively a fucking disaster for thousands of Ukrainian Jews?
Why is the ADL not screaming from the rooftops?
Where is the famous Jewish Lobby?
It seems that the US is the dog and Israel is the tail after all, eh?
You probably know my opposition to Israel's illegal occupation. I'm glad you bring it up because it allows me to return to the question I raised in the OP and then later: why is Israel, which is so very quick to condemn anything it perceives as anti-Semitic, in this case eerily quiet about, what is effectively a fucking disaster for thousands of Ukrainian Jews?
Why is the ADL not screaming from the rooftops?
Where is the famous Jewish Lobby?
It seems that the US is the dog and Israel is the tail after all, eh?
I didn't know, but I just assumed you opposed it!
Doing a quick Google search there is a long article on the ADL and Ukraine here:
I must say that GlobalResearch.ca does some bloody good stuff. It's a very good point that you make, but all the blind AIPAC and ADL followers won't wake up to this at all, of course.
The true measure of a man is not his intelligence or how high he rises in this freak establishment. The true measure of a man is this: how quickly he can respond to the needs of others and how much of himself he can give - Philip K. Dick.
WHO "beats" them and persecutes them?
That's the question.
WHO?.
In this case, Right Sector and Svoboda Party marina wrote:
We weren't born to hate a specific nation or race, we were TAUGHT to hate, and it easily can be undone, if you see through the veil, but also takes some working from the so called persecuted group. Saying "we are persecuted" over and over just fuels the fire. Basic psychology... You don't use negatives to remove negatives, you gotta use positives and completely eliminate negatives, if that makes any sense.
You are welcome to your own personal spiritual beliefs
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Rabbi of Kiev: Jews flee now
09 Mar 2014 02:15 #75
Ok people, time to clarify something.
Why this conflict started: Ukraine has some $ 2 billion debt to pay to the Russians for gas and been stealing European transit gas for decades, the Russians closed their eyes to everything, and tried to resolve it, until some Ukrainian fuck up decided to forget everything about debt and sign with the EU.... just so they can get out of it and not pay, and the last minute he backed off. Very simple. Then they play the people card and manipulate them into their schemes by using language minorities, ethnic minorities, religious etc.. it's all bullshit, a game of the few, but sadly it's the people that have to pay the high price.
"Like a lotus flower that grows out of the mud and blossoms above the muddy water surface,
we can rise above our defilements and sufferings of life" - Buddhist Value
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09 Mar 2014 02:15 #76
Its a bit like saying someone who never goes to church and hasn't a clue about christianity but gives pressies to kids at christmas is a 'christian'.
Its a load of bollocks. They're agnostic/atheist and hand some pressies round once a year.
Same goes for a lot of these so called jewish people in america and even in israel itself, they just don't give a shit about religion anymore and as such can no longer be said to be jewish.
The idea that they are somehow different is simply because 'ish' is on the end of the word lol.
There are obviously multiple races, languages, social stratification and all sorts of stuff, so if you want to be accurate at all the ONLY definition you can give is jews are those who follow the jewish faith, if they don't then they're either some other religion or agnostic/atheist and then whatever nationality or racial type they happen to be.
There is no 'jewish bloodline' anymore, that went out the window donkeys years ago, just as there is no christian or muslim bloodline or christian nationality or muslim nationality...the very concept is laughable to even consider.
I think much of it also has to do with how one wishes to be identified, and some will attach themselves to such a group for a number of reasons even if they don't practice the core beliefs. I know quite a few people who identify themselves as 'Christian' but that's about as far as anything they have to do with religion.
They can say whatever they like, it won't change the facts
There's far too many people who identify with being christian for example, its high time they admit that they are not christian.
I may aswell say I'm African because my ancestors came from there
Yeh I agree - to identify yourself as something you should at least have a basic idea what it's about. The mrs's mum for example, identifies herself as a Christian, but doesn't believe in God.
But the point is that many people do like to be grouped in this way, or they are conditioned to be so. I suppose it's up to them how they wish to be identified.
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Rabbi of Kiev: Jews flee now
09 Mar 2014 02:19 #77
Ok people, time to clarify something.
Why this conflict started: Ukraine has some $ 2 billion debt to pay to the Russians for gas and been stealing European transit gas for decades, the Russians closed their eyes to everything, and tried to resolve it, until some Ukrainian fuck up decided to forget everything about debt and sign with the EU.... just so they can get out of it and not pay, and the last minute he backed off. Very simple. Then they play the people card and manipulate them into their schemes by using language minorities, ethnic minorities, religious etc.. it's all bullshit, a game of the few, but sadly it's the people that have to pay the high price.
I definitely view it as just another energy war. You probably know more about it than me being relatively local, but it's always the same. You don't need to know anything about the Ukraine, as soon as you hear Obama saying "democracy / sovereignty, blah, blah, blah", you know that they've got oil, gas, minerals, or something.
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Rabbi of Kiev: Jews flee now
09 Mar 2014 02:24 #78
Ok people, time to clarify something.
Why this conflict started: Ukraine has some $ 2 billion debt to pay to the Russians for gas and been stealing European transit gas for decades, the Russians closed their eyes to everything, and tried to resolve it, until some Ukrainian fuck up decided to forget everything about debt and sign with the EU.... just so they can get out of it and not pay, and the last minute he backed off. Very simple. Then they play the people card and manipulate them into their schemes by using language minorities, ethnic minorities, religious etc.. it's all bullshit, a game of the few, but sadly it's the people that have to pay the high price.
This does not mean to say that the neo Nazis that they decided to ally themselves with do not persecute people on racial grounds.
& tbf, if I were a Jew, or were descended from Jews, & lived in Ukraine atm, I'd probably be quite concerned.... simply based on recent history, regardless of whether a load of propaganda is being peddled.
We're talking here about a hand-full of people from the upper top, the politicians, not nations, not the general population and countries. Trust me, if the locals (Crimea) have no fucking clue wtf is going on, (as far they are concerned, they are getting ready for the holiday season lol), what does the West know? Fuck all.
All politics, all games.
The simple folk (general population) are good folk from both sides of the fence.
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we can rise above our defilements and sufferings of life" - Buddhist Value
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