When a Nationalised Industry runs at a profit, it is often criticised for exploiting its subsidised status and gouging the tax payer and consumer.
BUT
When a Nationalised Industry runs at a loss it is accused of inefficiency, waste and mismanagement. It is now once again a burden on the consumer and the tax payer.
As Chomsky once pointed out, it is in fact sometimes a good thing to run a nationalised industry at a loss, if it is part of the infrastructure: in this way it supports the rest of the economy and the private sector. It also acts as a stabilising factor during recessions, for example.
Personally, I would prefer to see a different approach altogether to the private/nationalise dichotomy but selling off public assets at knock down prices only for the public to bail them put when they have been run into the ground (e.g. railways) is what the cunts are all about.
Theres nothing wrong with running a nationalised service at a profit IMHO.
Indeed, thats how it ought to be run but you won't get the staff for the job by insisting on the middle class uni snob slackers they have running things.
There are literally millions of people on the dole out there who could do the job better and thats the truth but they are ignored in favour of these assholes. Also they don't promote from within...its always from another bloody dept and its always another uni grad.
Some of the most successful businessmen do not have a degree nor do they give a shit about it when recruiting. The gov have an obsession with forms,red tape and procedure its all a pile of bollocks. I'm not surprised things are a mess.
If uni education was totally free to all no matter their age/sex/religion/colour/social class then perhaps they might see some changes.
Saving that just have some bloody apprenticeships, promote from within, give ppl meaning to their jobs and their lives.
I'm quite certain vast numbers of people could be quite capable doctors, especially specialists for example.
Imagine how many more we could have with apprenticeships right out of college?
Pffft, bloody obvious jobs for the boys bollocks, twats who can sign passports.
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"American Letter Mail Company
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American Letter Mail Company
Industry Courier
Fate Outlawed by
Private Express Statutes
Founded 1844
Defunct 1851
Headquarters USA New York
Key people Lysander Spooner
The American Letter Mail Company was started by Lysander Spooner in 1844, competing with the legal monopoly of the United States Post Office (USPO, now the USPS) in violation of the Private Express Statutes. It succeeded in delivering mail for lower prices, but the U.S. Government challenged Spooner with legal measures, eventually forcing him to cease operations in 1851.[1]
Contents [hide]
1 Overview
2 Competition with the U.S. Post Office Department
3 See also
4 References
5 External links
Overview[edit source | editbeta]
According to McMaster,[2] the company had offices in various cities, including Baltimore, Philadelphia, and New York. In February 1844, Spooner advertised rates of "Postage 6 1/4 cents for each half oz. ... Stamps, twenty for a dollar." He further stated, "The Company design also (if sustained by the public) thoroughly to agitate the question, and test the constitutional right of free competition in the business of carrying letters."[3] Stamps could be purchased and then attached to letters which could be sent to any of its offices. From there agents were dispatched who travelled on railroads and steamboats, and carried the letters in hand bags. Letters were transferred to messengers in the cities along the routes who then delivered the letters to the addressees.
Competition with the U.S. Post Office Department[edit source | editbeta]
Spooner's intentions were founded on both an ethical perspective, as he considered government monopoly to be an immoral restriction, and an economic analysis, as he believed that five cents was sufficient to send mail throughout the country. From its inception, the Company was a vehicle for legal challenge. "Mr. Spooner, the head of the American Letter Mail Company, has transmitted to the Department at Washington, a written admission of his conveyance of letters, &c., with all the necessary facts in the case, to make it a purely legal question, so that the Postmaster General has nothing to do but take the whole subject to the Supreme Court of the United States, as soon as it can be got there."[4] The American Letter Mail Company was able to reduce the price of its stamps significantly and even offered free local delivery, significantly undercutting the 12-cent stamp being sold by the Post Office Department. The federal government treated this as a criminal act:
United States v. John C. Gilmore—This was action instituted by the Government of the United States, to recover the sum of $50 for an alleged violation of the laws regulating the Post Office Department, embodied in the act of Congress of 1825...[5]
Calvin Case, another of the persons alleged to be in the office, or connected with "Postmaster General Lysander Spooner's American Letter Mail Company," was arrested and held to bail in the sum of $100, by the United States Marshal, in [Philadelphia], on Friday, on the ground of conveying letters contrary to the laws of Congress.[6]
Although the business was forced by the U.S. Government to close shop after only a few years, it succeeded in temporarily driving down the cost of government-delivered mail[citation needed]." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Letter_Mail_Company https://www.lewrockwell.com/1970/01/lucille-j-goodyear/spooner-vs-u-s-postal-system/ https://digitaljournal.com/article/271139
[url=No Treason The Constitution of No Authority by Lysander Spooner ]No Treason The Constitution of No Authority by Lysander Spooner [/url]
Because they have no experience at selling a product and managing it for a profit.
So from the Thatcher government to present government they've basically admitted they can't run the country and are unfit for purpose
They could have always employed top people from the private sector and given them competitive wages to build the citizens businesses up rather than run them down,how difficult is that.
What a defeatist attitude successive governments have had to just give in and sell the citizens businesses off to their friends.LOL
Because they have no experience at selling a product and managing it for a profit.
So from the Thatcher government to present government they've basically admitted they can't run the country and are unfit for purpose
They could have always employed top people from the private sector and given them competitive wages to build the citizens businesses up rather than run them down,how difficult is that.
They could just piss off completely IMHO, its the British gov who created ITIL and what a pile of bollocks thats turned out to be, along with other such management bullshit like 'Agile' I mean WTF!?!?
You should sit in a meeting and hear this fucking pricks explain it, it's just mind numbingly hilarious, I have to bite my bloody tongue so hard sometimes it bleeds ffs.
They have no problem recruiting an army of microshaft qualified drones and degrees but just sit back and watch what happens when they need a linux sys admin lol
So from the Thatcher government to present government they've basically admitted they can't run the country and are unfit for purpose
They could have always employed top people from the private sector and given them competitive wages to build the citizens businesses up rather than run them down,how difficult is that.
There's no incentive for Governments to run anything efficiently, economically speaking (politically is another thing).
If it loses money, who cares? Just steal more through inflation and taxation, magic!
Competition ruining your day? Make them illegal, schzam!
I'd also suggest that Government policies have not been a failure but a massive success, I have a different perception of what their aim is obviously. You can be damn sure that the people involved in a failed state postal system will make off like bandits through the privatisation, and don't be surprised if they then make that business untenable and repeat the process.
"If God didn't want them sheared, he would not have made them sheep."
Because they have no experience at selling a product and managing it for a profit.
So from the Thatcher government to present government they've basically admitted they can't run the country and are unfit for purpose
They could have always employed top people from the private sector and given them competitive wages to build the citizens businesses up rather than run them down,how difficult is that.
They could just piss off completely IMHO, its the British gov who created ITIL and what a pile of bollocks thats turned out to be, along with other such management bullshit like 'Agile' I mean WTF!?!?
You should sit in a meeting and hear this fucking pricks explain it, it's just mind numbingly hilarious, I have to bite my bloody tongue so hard sometimes it bleeds ffs.
They have no problem recruiting an army of microshaft qualified drones and degrees but just sit back and watch what happens when they need a linux sys admin lol
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