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New York Soda Ban 02 Jun 2012 16:37 #1

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NEW YORK — Just how far would a government go to protect us from ourselves?

In New York City – which already bans smoking in public parks in the name of public health and bars artificial trans fats from food served in restaurants – Mayor Michael Bloomberg now wants to stop sales of large sodas and other sugary drinks, in a bid to battle obesity. But in a country where fries have been equated with freedom, Bloomberg's proposal raises super-sized questions about government's role in shaping and restricting individual choices. What's next, a Twinkie purge?

"The idea of the state stepping in and treating adults essentially as children and trying to protect them for their own good, as opposed to the good of others, that's been with us for as long as we've been around, as long as we've had governments," says Glen Whitman, an economist at California State University-Northridge who is a critic of paternalistic public policy.

New York Soda Ban: After Controversial Bloomberg Proposal, What Foods Would Be Next?

Check out the extended article above for additional information.

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Normally I agree with the whole anti-big brother state sentiments, though it's my personal opinion that it's being utilized in this particular case to benefit Washington D.C lobbyist groups like the Corn Refiners Association and Monsanto. They make a good chunk of their high-fructose corn syrup sales through soda. To call these artificially sweetened beverages, and their GMO food counter parts 'food' is ridiculous. Food is supposed to nourish the body, not destroy it. In this particular case, I agree with Bloomberg. The people and the smaller branches of government are up against a massively influential corporate machine who's only goal is control, wealth, and power. If there wasn't such a massive health problem here in the US, a proposed ban on large sodas in public areas wouldn't even be suggested.
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Re: New York Soda Ban 02 Jun 2012 17:00 #2

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lol ridiculous
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Re: New York Soda Ban 02 Jun 2012 20:00 #3

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I don't think "Super Jumbo Massive Coronary Aneurysm Thrombosis" sized food/drinks should be banned but I do think that the food service industry should take it upon themselves (in a show of responsibility and good faith) to maybe stop pushing that line of products with so much fervor. That stuff could still be available for people willing to ruin their health but they could maybe ease up on the 24/7 commercials about how you can "Super-quadruple size your shit for only $0.59!!! That's Fifty-nine cents, hurry now while this offer is valid, void if you care about your body and have the slightest shred of self-respect...."

It's 2012, people know very well that they can purchase enough food in one upgraded fast-food meal to last a family of four for two fuckin days, they don't need commercials, offers, coupons and billboard advertising driving that fact home! That's my two Lincolns.
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Re: New York Soda Ban 02 Jun 2012 21:55 #4

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people, say what you want, but this is one of the few good decisions the us govt has made.


people are stupid and have no idea how bad sugary drinks are for your health.

look at the obesity rates in usa, or even worldwide by now.

sugary drinks are the number one fatmaker, if you know how a body works, you should know this.

this will indirectly extend peoples lifes there.


i dont care what anyone says, if a person is obese most of them arent happy about life at all.

ofc this is avoidable, people can just buy 5 smaller units and become just as fat.

comeon, so manykids already fat these days, if you think thats fine, oh well.
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Re: New York Soda Ban 02 Jun 2012 22:20 #5

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phemohilia wrote:
I don't think "Super Jumbo Massive Coronary Aneurysm Thrombosis" sized food/drinks should be banned but I do think that the food service industry should take it upon themselves (in a show of responsibility and good faith) to maybe stop pushing that line of products with so much fervor. That stuff could still be available for people willing to ruin their health but they could maybe ease up on the 24/7 commercials about how you can "Super-quadruple size your shit for only $0.59!!! That's Fifty-nine cents, hurry now while this offer is valid, void if you care about your body and have the slightest shred of self-respect...."

It's 2012, people know very well that they can purchase enough food in one upgraded fast-food meal to last a family of four for two fuckin days, they don't need commercials, offers, coupons and billboard advertising driving that fact home! That's my two Lincolns.


You're as right as you are hilarious, Phem. :killinme:
The fast food and soda industries could relax the constant advertisement shelling of public minds. What I wonder is if it may have been suggested/requested before? A quick internet search didn't turn anything like that up. Had that been the case, and they didn't comply, I could understand the choice to want to ban the large sodas. It might also be a case of reverse psychology, as a lot of news publications are spinning this in a big brother-ish manner. Typically when people are told not to do something, they want to do it. Who knows, maybe Bloomberg has a deal with Coke or Pepsi?





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people, say what you want, but this is one of the few good decisions the us govt has made.


people are stupid and have no idea how bad sugary drinks are for your health.

look at the obesity rates in usa, or even worldwide by now.

sugary drinks are the number one fatmaker, if you know how a body works, you should know this.

this will indirectly extend peoples lifes there.


i dont care what anyone says, if a person is obese most of them arent happy about life at all.

ofc this is avoidable, people can just buy 5 smaller units and become just as fat.

comeon, so manykids already fat these days, if you think thats fine, oh well.

You're correct, Hada. Obesity is spreading along with western influence. I do agree that it can be a sign of unhappiness in some people, as they don't feel motivated to keep themselves healthy. Other people don't really have much of a choice, as a lot of the affordable foods and drinks are saturated with processed materials, preservatives, and artificial sweeteners. It shows that the producers of those products are looking to cut corners, rather than keeping repeat healthy customers. Logically then, it's either by design, or their business approach needs some serious reworking.
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Re: New York Soda Ban 03 Jun 2012 04:56 #6

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Re New York...I've just finished watching some 9/11 footage.

Priorities...anyone?

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