oioioi wrote:
I don't want to appear to be singling you out feather so I'll ask a general question; do those people who see consensus as being an unrealistic and/or unachievable goal have previous experience of consensus decision making?
Single me out if you feel that's appropriate mate. I'm a big lad with broad shoulders.
I spent 20+ years as a community worker.
My entire objective in that period was to maximise community participation and control, ideally with consensus.
I have NEVER once seen that come to full fruition because people become entrenched in their opinions and won't be moved.
It is from that experience that I believe, (regrettably), that your aim is laudable but idealistic and only leads to endless pedantic nitpicking, stagnation and boredom.
Once again, I have asked many times for examples of this form of online community 'management' in working practice and nothing has ever been offered up. I suspect there is a damn good reason for that.
I don't ask as a "ahh gotchya" type query,
I'm asking because I would sincerely like to witness it and study how it was achieved and maintained.
I honestly get tempted to challenge you to go set up an online community along these principles and invite me over to watch it's progress. I would
love to see it working.
Again mate, we have no personal beef, (that I'm aware of), and I hope you accept I don't mean the above challenge in the form of "
If you don't like it, move to Canada!" vein. Fuck that nonsense, I want you here.
