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Re: Self-policing Athens style! 18 Sep 2012 01:17 #41

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It's not over until the fat lady sings and it seems she refuses to sing as long as we call her fat.

I'm nicking that!
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Re: Self-policing Athens style! 18 Sep 2012 01:18 #42

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i-baster wrote:
It's not over until the fat lady sings and it seems she refuses to sing as long as we call her fat.

I'm nicking that!

Tis cool. Tis true.

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Re: Self-policing Athens style! 18 Sep 2012 01:42 #43

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oioioi wrote:
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oioioi wrote:
One mans 'us' is another man's 'them'. Wanted to clarify I wasn't misconstruing your comments along with other slightly vague statements you've made recently.

Unless you have suddenly converted to the far right it seems pretty clear to me. Mickey seem to manage to grasp what was said but that didn't seem to help you. :conf:

You have consistently misconstrued things which have been repeatedly responded with more incomprehension feigned or other wise. In spite of the fact that clarification has been given time and again.

Mr vague is calling me out for being vague. :chuckle: What is it that I have said that you're still struggling to comprehend? Maybe it would help if you just come out with whatever it is that seems to be bothering you about what I have said. What label are you trying to pin on me - which box should I be climbing into for you?

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Answering your questions as you raise them is off topic? Humm or part of the flow of a conversation. Fortunately most people that can read and comprehend also poses the power of discernment. I'm sure they can work out for themselves what the score is based on modus operandi. Obviously there are exceptions to that observation.

So have you had enough sherberts yet to actually share what this beef of yours is?
Maybe it would help if you just come out with whatever it is that seems to be bothering you about what I have said.

You could address the questions raised in response to earlier questions/statements you raised/made. If it isn't in keeping with the flow of conversation in this thread feel free to open one with a title that suits you. Let me know when your ready to shed some light on the real issue that you seem constantly unable to convey in plain English.
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Re: Self-policing Athens style! 18 Sep 2012 01:46 #44

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Struggling to find these pertinent questions of yours, maybe you could highlight them for me.

Like this:
Frog, what do you think of the actions of the Golden Dawn mem­bers in the clips I posted above?
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Re: Self-policing Athens style! 18 Sep 2012 01:49 #45

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Re: Self-policing Athens style! 18 Sep 2012 01:58 #46

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Not too concerned for our own safety as we are Greek and/or blue eyed blondes, but thanks anyway.

Are Golden Dawn ok with immigrants such as yourself from countries like Britain then?

(serious question that btw)
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Re: Self-policing Athens style! 18 Sep 2012 01:58 #47

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oioioi wrote:
Struggling to find these pertinent questions of yours, maybe you could highlight them for me.
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One mans 'us' is another man's 'them'. Wanted to clarify I wasn't misconstruing your comments along with other slightly vague statements you've made recently.

Unless you have suddenly converted to the far right it seems pretty clear to me. Mickey seem to manage to grasp what was said but that didn't seem to help you. :conf:

You have consistently misconstrued things which have been repeatedly responded with more incomprehension feigned or other wise. In spite of the fact that clarification has been given time and again.

Mr vague is calling me out for being vague. :chuckle: What is it that I have said that you're still struggling to comprehend? Maybe it would help if you just come out with whatever it is that seems to be bothering you about what I have said. What label are you trying to pin on me - which box should I be climbing into for you?

Humm you can manage to quote them but fail to address them, then ask where they are. :killinme: It's one little paragraph and the questions end with a ? hope that helps. Surely you can manage to coupe with that. Open a new thread if it's not part of the flow in this conversation - which has already been suggested.
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Frog, what do you think of the actions of the Golden Dawn mem­bers in the clips I posted above?

First things first eh? ;)
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Re: Self-policing Athens style! 18 Sep 2012 02:02 #48

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I'm struggling to comprehend what you make of the actions of Golden Dawn in the posted clips.
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Re: Self-policing Athens style! 18 Sep 2012 02:04 #49

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diamondgeezer wrote:
oioioi wrote:
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Not too concerned for our own safety as we are Greek and/or blue eyed blondes, but thanks anyway.

Are Golden Dawn ok with immigrants such as yourself from countries like Britain then?

(serious question that btw)

I would love to know! Mrs oioioi isn't up for phoning their 'blood bank' number to ascertain the situation regarding our daughters (1 uk born, 1 greek born) to pin them down a bit.
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Re: Self-policing Athens style! 18 Sep 2012 02:26 #50

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oioioi wrote:
I'm struggling to comprehend what you make of the actions of Golden Dawn in the posted clips.

You also seem to be struggling yet again to address the questions in the flow of the conversation. Modus operandi! discernment. ;)

One paragraph - come on how hard can that be? :dunno:
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Re: Self-policing Athens style! 18 Sep 2012 02:35 #51

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What is it that I have said that you’re still strug­gling to com­pre­hend?

That's an opinion, not a question.
What label are you try­ing to pin on me — which box should I be climb­ing into for you?

You're expressing your concern that your answer will somehow incriminate you in some way. Again, not really a question.

So....
Frog, what do you think of the actions of the Golden Dawn mem­bers in the clips I posted above?
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Re: Self-policing Athens style! 18 Sep 2012 02:39 #52

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oioioi wrote:
I would love to know! Mrs oioioi isn't up for phoning their 'blood bank' number to ascertain the situation regarding our daughters (1 uk born, 1 greek born) to pin them down a bit.

I don't know much about Golden Dawn myself tbh, except that they are a 'far right' party.

Guessing though, I'd say they are unlikely to have the same problem with 'caucasian' immigrants from northern european countries such as the UK, in the way they no doubt have a problem with black, asian and eastern european immigrants.

Greeks are after all technically 'white european' themselves right?

They are probably 'nationalistic' as well as racist though, so you could get some resentment on that score I dare say.
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Re: Self-policing Athens style! 18 Sep 2012 02:40 #53

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Passive aggressive policing. Is it effective?
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Re: Self-policing Athens style! 18 Sep 2012 03:18 #54

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oioioi wrote:
What is it that I have said that you’re still strug­gling to com­pre­hend?

That's an opinion, not a question.

Where exactly did you acknowledge that you finally comprehended the context of the initial post of mine? To the best of my knowledge you never clarified that...which makes that a question based on an opinion formed from the lack of clarity on your part.

This is that part of the conversation which to my knowledge is relevant although I could have missed something which should be included here.
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As the OP and an active poster against the far right who only mentioned one right wing organisation in the OP it seems rather strange that you couldn't work out who 'them' was a reference to. The rest of the replies were as a result of your protracted questioning of something which was pretty obvious from the start. Especially when mickey mickey managed to work it out. :roll:

It's wearing rather thin.

One mans 'us' is another man's 'them'. Wanted to clarify I wasn't misconstruing your comments along with other slightly vague statements you've made recently.
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oioioi wrote:
One mans 'us' is another man's 'them'. Wanted to clarify I wasn't misconstruing your comments along with other slightly vague statements you've made recently.

Unless you have suddenly converted to the far right it seems pretty clear to me. Mickey seem to manage to grasp what was said but that didn't seem to help you. :conf:

You have consistently misconstrued things which have been repeatedly responded with more incomprehension feigned or other wise. In spite of the fact that clarification has been given time and again.

Mr vague is calling me out for being vague. :chuckle: What is it that I have said that you're still struggling to comprehend? Maybe it would help if you just come out with whatever it is that seems to be bothering you about what I have said. What label are you trying to pin on me - which box should I be climbing into for you?
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Fuck it...

Frog, what do you think of the actions of the Golden Dawn members in the clips I posted above?
What label are you try­ing to pin on me — which box should I be climb­ing into for you?

You're expressing your concern that your answer will somehow incriminate you in some way. Again, not really a question.

Clearly there is a preconception being drawn on your part, which suggests that you have already boxed and labeled me, which your statement and others else where would also indicate. Which you then punctuate a new sentence 'again not really a question.' which could be considered you reaffirming the preconception. Obviously that is ambiguous enough to conceal any number of intents and purposes.

So care to clarify what you're inferring exactly? Can you manage to put it out there - do you have what it takes to speak directly or are you going to continue in perpetuity? Modus operandi!
So....
Frog, what do you think of the actions of the Golden Dawn mem­bers in the clips I posted above?

We're getting there you have at least confirmed that you have a negative preconception - now lets see if you can manage to establish what this preconception is shall we? I'm sure the suspense is killing anyone that's remotely interested. Not! I'm all ears in your own time...
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Re: Self-policing Athens style! 18 Sep 2012 06:42 #55

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My "preconception" is based on their actions in the vids I keep asking you about, and yes, I view them negatively.

So......
Frog, what do you think of the actions of the Golden Dawn mem­bers in the clips I posted above?
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Re: Self-policing Athens style! 18 Sep 2012 07:23 #56

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My "preconception" is based on their actions in the vids I keep asking you about, and yes, I view them negatively.

So......
Frog, what do you think of the actions of the Golden Dawn mem­bers in the clips I posted above?

Why are you having a problem simply answering the questions? Why are you being so utterly pathetic? Grow a pair and speak your mind instead of hiding what you consider to be an issue! Modus Operandi.

It's not me that has a problem creating text amounting to whole paragraphs, which actually clarify and repeatedly reestablish answers to previously feigned questions that have been qualified time and again. :roll:
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Re: Self-policing Athens style! 18 Sep 2012 08:40 #57

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Golden Dawn: certainly not a Nazi party
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Golden Dawn is an extreme right[6][7][8][9] political organization in Greece. It is led by Nikolaos Michaloliakos and has grown exponentially since its inception to a widely known Greek political party with nationwide support.

Scholars and media describe it as neo-Nazi[5][10] and fascist,[11] although the group rejects these labels.[12] They have used Nazi symbolism and praised figures of Nazi Germany in the past.[13][14][15] According to academic sources, the group is racist and xenophobic,[3][4] while the party's leader has openly identified it as nationalist and racist.[16]
Members of Golden Dawn have been accused of carrying out acts of violence and hate crimes against immigrants, political opponents and ethnic minorities
In 2000, unknown suspects vandalized the Monastirioton synagogue, a memorial for Holocaust victims and Jewish cemeteries in Thessaloniki and Athens
. In a specific case, on the night of October 22, Pantelis Kazakos, a nationalist and a member of the Golden Dawn[69][70][71], feeling as he stated: "insulted by the burning of the Greek flag", shot nine people in the center of Athens
In May 2012, Golden Dawn ran in Greek elections under the slogan "So we can rid this land of filth"
In the elections of May 2012, exit polls showed that in the large urban regions of Greece (mainly Athens, and also Thessaloniki) an average of 50% of the members of various police divisions (especially those in special task and anti-riot units) reported voting for Golden Dawn.

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Re: Self-policing Athens style! 18 Sep 2012 12:46 #58

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Frog wrote:

Why are you having a problem simply answering the questions? Why are you being so utterly pathetic? Grow a pair and speak your mind instead of hiding what you consider to be an issue! Modus Operandi.

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Re: Self-policing Athens style! 18 Sep 2012 12:50 #59

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In my head this is oi's market stall and frog keeps trying to tip it over for some reason.
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Re: Self-policing Athens style! 18 Sep 2012 13:01 #60

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In my head this is oi's market stall and frog keeps trying to tip it over for some reason.

What reason could that be then? :secret:

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