www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-18265565

There it is for all to see.
The high court now works for the EU. Ireland is no longer a sovereign state.
Ireland officially cannot veto the ESM.

Millions of people will read that with a blank expression and not realise just what has transpired.

Depressing innit :/

i didnt read the link, but yeah the eu makes away nations sovereignity.

however, the esm thing is something incredibly,uhm, straight up illegal if you ask me.

look their terms up very closely.

this system doesnt work.

so they pretend theres a choic to veto the esm?

andyh wrote:
Daft to hope it would ever have turned out any different, I s'pose? What's to be done about it now?

hadabusa wrote:
No, they're not pretending there's any veto at all. The irish high court has said that there is no veto.

andyh wrote:
You know who isnt one of them anymore...anywhere where the lockheed bombers and ground forces are invading.

That would make sense novum.

The yellow journalism is grinding into top gear now. With articles like how that 'sinn fein stunt' is going to cost the taxpayer 200,000 euros, this despite the fact clearly stated in the same article that the judge has yet to decide on the bloody costs!

Using your legal system for checks and balances of authority (foreign authority in this case..) is now 'undemocratic' and a 'stunt'.

From the 28th May some real journalism in the irish times (stand back in amazement..)

RULES OF CAPITALISM: IF BANKS obey the rules of capitalism and make a bad debt they should go bankrupt, the outspoken US financial analyst and former stockbroker Max Keiser said at an event in Dublin yesterday.

“If they are capitalists they should obey the rules of capitalism; if you make a bad debt and screw up then you’ve got to pay the consequences. You can’t go to the government and get a bailout . . . that’s not capitalism, that’s not even socialism, that’s crapitalism,” Mr Keiser said in a talk marked by black economic comedy.

Mr Keiser also referred to the case of Anglo Irish Bank, saying there was no such thing as a “bond fairy” which should have allowed the bank’s unsecured bondholders to get paid. “There is no argument that can be substantiated for paying off that bond.”

Anthony Coughlan, economist and professor emeritus in Trinity College Dublin and director of the National Platform EU Research and Information Centre, spoke against the treaty.

He said he was hopeful that an action by Donegal TD Thomas Pringle, which is to be heard before the High Court next month, would result in the holding of a referendum on the separate European Stability Mechanism treaty, which the Government plans to ratify in June.

The ESM treaty is different from the fiscal treaty that will be voted on on Thursday.

“I’m reasonably confident that we will probably have a referendum down the road on the ESM treaty because it’s monumentally illegal under EU law and Irish law.”

Mr Coughlan said it would be “absurd” for Irish voters to vote in favour of the fiscal referendum on Thursday given that the ESM would not be set up until July.

“It would be absurd for Irish voters next Thursday . . . to agree to a permanent . . . balanced budget in perpetuity in order to have access to a fund that doesn’t yet exist, which Ireland and other EU states has not yet ratified, and that in turn depends upon an amendment of EU treaties on which this State has a veto.”

He added that there was “no legal obstacle whatever” to Ireland re-running a referendum.

“We are at this moment in time at a moment in European history, a very important moment. It would be foolish for the Irish voters to just be good, compliant servants of the euro zone by voting Yes next Thursday.”

www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/201...8/1224316807607.html

It's 'crapitalism' says Max Keiser