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Consciousness is the quality or state of being aware of an external object or something within oneself.

It has been defined as: subjectivity, awareness, sentience, the ability to experience or to feel, wakefulness, having a sense of selfhood, and the executive control system of the mind.

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Re: Demonic influence and visitation. 19 Sep 2012 23:15 #21

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martg wrote:
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Aren't demons meant to be 'fallen angels', with the purpose of their existence (allegedly) being to lead people onto the path of unholiness?

My mum practised mediumship for a few years, and she always said that, just as there are people in this dimension who are basically good, ones who are mischievous trouble-makers, and ones who are malevolent, the same applies in the spirit world.

The one time I saw one of those dark figures I got the impression it was just curious about what I was doing. It was when I was performing some witchcraft (ritual & spell-casting) at the request of a neighbour who was struggling financially, to help them get a more highly paid job. Perhaps 'it' (for want of a more appropriate pronoun) assisted.

Demon is a corruption of the pre-christian word Daemon, meaning benevolent or sometimes mischevious spirit.
the modern day christian idea of demons as evil entities really began in the early middle ages and like the rest of modern christianity is twisted and corrupted from it's original form.

hey mart, mr crowley said daemons were part of our brain and those rituals to summon that shit just woke up those parts of it. or something like that.
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Re: Demonic influence and visitation. 19 Sep 2012 23:21 #22

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batou wrote:
martg wrote:
Gilly wrote:
Aren't demons meant to be 'fallen angels', with the purpose of their existence (allegedly) being to lead people onto the path of unholiness?

My mum practised mediumship for a few years, and she always said that, just as there are people in this dimension who are basically good, ones who are mischievous trouble-makers, and ones who are malevolent, the same applies in the spirit world.

The one time I saw one of those dark figures I got the impression it was just curious about what I was doing. It was when I was performing some witchcraft (ritual & spell-casting) at the request of a neighbour who was struggling financially, to help them get a more highly paid job. Perhaps 'it' (for want of a more appropriate pronoun) assisted.

Demon is a corruption of the pre-christian word Daemon, meaning benevolent or sometimes mischevious spirit.
the modern day christian idea of demons as evil entities really began in the early middle ages and like the rest of modern christianity is twisted and corrupted from it's original form.

hey mart, mr crowley said daemons were part of our brain and those rituals to summon that shit just woke up those parts of it. or something like that.

hmm, interesting, I didn't know he said that
if that is the case then he must be using the term in a different way from describing other entities, because he certainly believed in these other beings that could be communicated with, he did claim to have channelled The Book of the Law from a being called lam.
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Re: Demonic influence and visitation. 19 Sep 2012 23:30 #23

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Rick wrote:
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I've often wondered about this re Sketti and her liking for man-flesh, Rick. You should have seen her in chat last night...

On a serious note, you make a very good point regarding 'good' and 'evil' being subjective things. If you believe that there are such things as alternate/parallel dimensions, then you must also concede that our ideas of positive and negative vary wildly right here in our own dimension, dependent on where you are geographically, what period of time/religion you were born in to, for example.

Imo, the line between good and evil is not particularly well defined in THIS dimension, either.

I shall ponder this further. Thanks.

example of definition of modern day evil by people who believe in demons..........

{Exorcism is only accepted in only the most harsh of case, in other situations it's usually labeled as a medical, or a mental condition, or the person is acting out faking it for attention.}

So why would a person who never had a history of violent behavior, all of a sudden commit a violent act, something triggered their mind, but they don't know for sure really what the breaking point was it a different thought process took over the persons mind, or it was something in them.

That finally made them reach their breaking point

Mind control, one of the hot topics coming about.
Apparently used by military, yes, go figure.

I got in to research and this stuff when x-files started screening on TV. :D
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Re: Demonic influence and visitation. 20 Sep 2012 06:10 #24

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It's much more comfortable for people to be happy in the physical, and the love of modern day idol's, celebrity worship, gaudy jewelry, and random sex, thinking in terms of being a cosmic being is not that easy for us humans, maybe we need another ten thousand years of evolving.

But most likely in my opinion, we will destroy ourselves before awareness of what we really are sinks in, maybe a few individual's will attain this enlightenment but not many, and most people will always just be in the physical in their mind and actions

What do you think this enlightenment is?

And what separates those would obtain it from the ones who don't?
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Re: Demonic influence and visitation. 20 Sep 2012 07:51 #25

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RealAmerican wrote:
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It's much more comfortable for people to be happy in the physical, and the love of modern day idol's, celebrity worship, gaudy jewelry, and random sex, thinking in terms of being a cosmic being is not that easy for us humans, maybe we need another ten thousand years of evolving.

But most likely in my opinion, we will destroy ourselves before awareness of what we really are sinks in, maybe a few individual's will attain this enlightenment but not many, and most people will always just be in the physical in their mind and actions

What do you think this enlightenment is?

And what separates those would obtain it from the ones who don't?

Many things, but let me try to express this in terms of the martial mind, you may relate to that better, as to a understanding of enlightenment.

Flexibility of mind bending but not breaking, the type of person who can avoid problems or battles, one who feel's out thing's before randomly acting, many thing's are classified as making a individual more enlightened, and for the understanding of ourselves in more of a cosmic sense, and not so much as just physical being's that react to outside stimulus.More of a ability to look within and understand why we react

We may grow in this area, but most likely we will become so technically advanced and high and mighty, we will destroy ourselves first, before peace and harmony of mind with each other on this planet can happen, as which I believe some ancient civilizations have done in ages past, destroying themselves
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