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Re: do you really really believ 911 was inside job? 25 May 2012 07:11 #21

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wonderboy there is a flaw with your point, sorry.

you didnt calculate the costs of a plane,lol.

and the area around the buildings thatd be damaged.

the now dead jovenko, a leading dmolition expert has said the building 7 looks like a demolition, but the towers1 and 2 dont.

and there were planes which crashed before and no air force could stop them, and the logic of the issue how the speed of the planes isnt possible doesnt make sense to me, the planes absolutely looke like they were there, at whatever speed.
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Re: do you really really believ 911 was inside job? 25 May 2012 07:12 #22

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Clearly all demolition experts were asleep on 9/11 and have since converted to the Amish way.

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Re: do you really really believ 911 was inside job? 25 May 2012 07:17 #23

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the now dead jovenko, a leading dmolition expert has said the building 7 looks like a demolition, but the towers1 and 2 dont.

when silverstein said his "we decided to pull it" comment, ofc it was about building 7.

hadabusa wrote:
and there were planes which crashed before and no air force could stop them, and the logic of the issue how the speed of the planes isnt possible doesnt make sense to me, the planes absolutely looke like they were there, at whatever speed.

I wait for the no planers now :yeahno:
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Re: do you really really believ 911 was inside job? 25 May 2012 10:12 #24

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I'm 99.9% certain that the piloting and navigation couldn't even conceivably have been carried out by the people who supposedly did it, and equally that the official story regarding the air-traffic control is complete bullshit. I can explain this in quite some depth if required.

I could comment about all the other stuff, but I know enough about this, and know people who work for NATS who also believe that it is bullshit, so if this were the case, it would have to have been made to happen.

There are plenty of pilots who don't believe this, but in my opinion believe is the key word. I simply don't think they have looked at what occurred critically.

This plus 3 buildings collapsing into their own footprints, 1 of them not even hit by a plane...the whole thing is a circus act of unbelievable proportions.

We've no idea who really carried this out and I doubt we ever will.
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Re: do you really really believ 911 was inside job? 25 May 2012 12:58 #25

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Nice vid, boywonder. Thanks.

I like the notes underneath too re the loud bangs...again apparently this was coincidentally what some witnesses noticed on that fateful day.

Purely coincidence though...obviously. :cool:
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Re: do you really really believ 911 was inside job? 25 May 2012 13:02 #26

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My wife's cousin, who I know very well, works for American Airlines in Texas. If he doesn't sign the sheet, the plane doesn't fly. He services Lear jets on the side.

He told me about these airline test pilots, all crazy ex-USAF guys usually, who take new/repaired planes up and throw them about...a lot. He went up with them once, and that was enough for him.

They all said that could not have flown at that speed, at that height, and performed the manouvers those planes did.
what maneuver did they do that wasso hard?they flew the planes into a building as wide asa footbal field at high speed.
even if theyd have missed it, theyd have crashed in the heart of new york.

not to sound offensive but what is your point?are you saying there was no planes?

saying thew spees arent humanly possible kinda implies there was no planes

I'm only telling you what I was told. By someone who knows a damn site more than you do about aeronauatics.

I'm sure you're right, but that doesn't mean he shouldn't ask questions.

Definitely...I'm sure I don't need to remind you all, but THIS IS NOT THE DIF! We're all grown ups here so play nice.

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Re: do you really really believ 911 was inside job? 25 May 2012 13:42 #27

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wonderboy there is a flaw with your point, sorry.

you didnt calculate the costs of a plane,lol.


And how did I know you'd come up with some deliberately ignorant comment like that Hadabusa?

Read what you originally said about this topic. "After years of looking at both arguments"
Mate it took me approx 1 year to make up my mind about 9/11, so my advice to you is, if this is the best you've managed to come up with, after years of 'honestly looking' don't give up your day job mate!

Really, so your telling me that it's a plane that makes all the difference, not jet fuel. Leave me alone pal. I know a wind up merchant when I see one.

Do me a favour, learn to use spell check and keep a post like this for DIF. They like this kind of mind numbing turdball.

It's like you have walked into a kebab shop, and said to all the staff that anyone who eats meat is a c**t.
the now dead jovenko, a leading dmolition expert has said the building 7 looks like a demolition, but the towers1 and 2 dont.

I like it here. Why? Because the vast majority of posters here are intelligent, reasonable, down to earth human beings. Why do I hate DIF? Because it's full of people like you that seem to be obsessed with starting pointless debates about 9/11.

If you honestly can't see 9/11 for what it really is, here's the perfect forum for you:

www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/community/


Sorry mods, this reply might seem like a personal attack or abuse, but pay attention, this post is a small insight into what could occur more and more frequently in the future. ;)

If I'm out of line sorry. I'm not saying we shouldn't debate this issue, or any issue, but come on! It's like someone walking into a shoe shop and standing there all day saying shoes are crap try walking barefoot. I will kick ass until I'm told to stop, which I have been.

So I'll stop.

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Re: do you really really believ 911 was inside job? 25 May 2012 13:48 #28

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pheony wrote:
jhado wrote:
hadabusa wrote:
jhado wrote:
My wife's cousin, who I know very well, works for American Airlines in Texas. If he doesn't sign the sheet, the plane doesn't fly. He services Lear jets on the side.

He told me about these airline test pilots, all crazy ex-USAF guys usually, who take new/repaired planes up and throw them about...a lot. He went up with them once, and that was enough for him.

They all said that could not have flown at that speed, at that height, and performed the manouvers those planes did.
what maneuver did they do that wasso hard?they flew the planes into a building as wide asa footbal field at high speed.
even if theyd have missed it, theyd have crashed in the heart of new york.

not to sound offensive but what is your point?are you saying there was no planes?

saying thew spees arent humanly possible kinda implies there was no planes

I'm only telling you what I was told. By someone who knows a damn site more than you do about aeronauatics.

I'm sure you're right, but that doesn't mean he shouldn't ask questions.

Of course he should ask questions, and never stop asking.

My apologies, I didn't realise that I had been quite so rude. :emb:
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Re: do you really really believ 911 was inside job? 25 May 2012 15:26 #29

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Behave yourself hada :shlap:
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Re: do you really really believ 911 was inside job? 25 May 2012 15:45 #30

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jhado wrote:
pheony wrote:
jhado wrote:
hadabusa wrote:
jhado wrote:
My wife's cousin, who I know very well, works for American Airlines in Texas. If he doesn't sign the sheet, the plane doesn't fly. He services Lear jets on the side.

He told me about these airline test pilots, all crazy ex-USAF guys usually, who take new/repaired planes up and throw them about...a lot. He went up with them once, and that was enough for him.

They all said that could not have flown at that speed, at that height, and performed the manouvers those planes did.
what maneuver did they do that wasso hard?they flew the planes into a building as wide asa footbal field at high speed.
even if theyd have missed it, theyd have crashed in the heart of new york.

not to sound offensive but what is your point?are you saying there was no planes?

saying thew spees arent humanly possible kinda implies there was no planes

I'm only telling you what I was told. By someone who knows a damn site more than you do about aeronauatics.

I'm sure you're right, but that doesn't mean he shouldn't ask questions.

Of course he should ask questions, and never stop asking.

My apologies, I didn't realise that I had been quite so rude. :emb:

You never have to apologise here, jhado. All viewpoints are welcome. We just need to try and keep things civil, otherwise we're no better than certain other sites that shall remain nameless...

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Re: do you really really believ 911 was inside job? 25 May 2012 15:48 #31

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boywonder wrote:
If I'm out of line sorry. I'm not saying we shouldn't debate this issue, or any issue, but come on! It's like someone walking into a shoe shop and standing there all day saying shoes are crap try walking barefoot. I will kick ass until I'm told to stop, which I have been.

So I'll stop.

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No worries wonderboy. You're entitled to your opinion, as is our dear hada.

And please don't leave the thread! This forum is for you to express your opinions, openly, honestly and while being as civil as possible.

Personally, I rather liked your kebab shop analogy.

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Re: do you really really believ 911 was inside job? 25 May 2012 15:54 #32

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Ab Origine wrote:
boywonder wrote:
If I'm out of line sorry. I'm not saying we shouldn't debate this issue, or any issue, but come on! It's like someone walking into a shoe shop and standing there all day saying shoes are crap try walking barefoot. I will kick ass until I'm told to stop, which I have been.

So I'll stop.

Leaving post

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No worries wonderboy. You're entitled to your opinion, as is our dear hada.

And please don't leave the thread! This forum is for you to express your opinions, openly, honestly and while being as civil as possible.

Personally, I rather liked your kebab shop analogy.

:D

So did I. :twisted:
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Re: do you really really believ 911 was inside job? 25 May 2012 16:37 #33

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Ab Origine wrote:
jhado wrote:
pheony wrote:
jhado wrote:
hadabusa wrote:
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My wife's cousin, who I know very well, works for American Airlines in Texas. If he doesn't sign the sheet, the plane doesn't fly. He services Lear jets on the side.

He told me about these airline test pilots, all crazy ex-USAF guys usually, who take new/repaired planes up and throw them about...a lot. He went up with them once, and that was enough for him.

They all said that could not have flown at that speed, at that height, and performed the manouvers those planes did.
what maneuver did they do that wasso hard?they flew the planes into a building as wide asa footbal field at high speed.
even if theyd have missed it, theyd have crashed in the heart of new york.

not to sound offensive but what is your point?are you saying there was no planes?

saying thew spees arent humanly possible kinda implies there was no planes

I'm only telling you what I was told. By someone who knows a damn site more than you do about aeronauatics.

I'm sure you're right, but that doesn't mean he shouldn't ask questions.

Of course he should ask questions, and never stop asking.

My apologies, I didn't realise that I had been quite so rude. :emb:

You never have to apologise here, jhado. All viewpoints are welcome. We just need to try and keep things civil, otherwise we're no better than certain other sites that shall remain nameless...

;) :up:

I was rude to Hads, he had said nothing to deserve it, and that is so unlike me.

So in this case, I felt an apology necessary, my apology is sincere, and I need to lighten up a bit.
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Re: do you really really believ 911 was inside job? 25 May 2012 16:40 #34

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That says it all tbh.

The 'whacko' conspiracy theories are imho actually LESS whacko than the official version...
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Re: do you really really believ 911 was inside job? 25 May 2012 16:44 #35

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andyh wrote:


That says it all tbh.

The 'whacko' conspiracy theories are imho actually LESS whacko than the official version...

Indeed. In fact, you'll find that theories labelled as such, usually have an element of truth about them that someone, somewhere, doesn't want you thinking too much about in my experience.
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Re: do you really really believ 911 was inside job? 25 May 2012 17:11 #36

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Are People supposed to tip toe around subjects because it may offend a few people :conf:

If people have something to say ..say it :D

If it turns into a row then so be it :poke:

Were all adults :roll:

No emotive language then, no swearing, fuck me is this a non conflict zone :lick: :rl:
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Re: do you really really believ 911 was inside job? 25 May 2012 17:19 #37

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Are People supposed to tip toe around subjects because it may offend a few people :conf:

If people have something to say ..say it :D

If it turns into a row then so be it :poke:

Were all adults :roll:

No emotive language then, no swearing, fuck me is this a non conflict zone :lick: :rl:

:conf: :dunno:
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Re: do you really really believ 911 was inside job? 25 May 2012 17:20 #38

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Ab Origine wrote:

Personally, I rather liked your kebab shop analogy.

:D

Thanks Abs!

I just knew that Had would sidestep my point about demolition. You could use a big crane and a rock attached to it ffs, then throw in the jet fuel :roflha:
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Fair point mate, but what can you do when people persistently tip toe around logic?

I think I need one of those swear jar thingys :winky:
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Re: do you really really believ 911 was inside job? 25 May 2012 17:27 #39

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I think I need one of those swear jar thingys :winky:


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Re: do you really really believ 911 was inside job? 25 May 2012 17:31 #40

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This is such an emotive subject.

On the other site I never once gave my opinion on the subject for that very reason.

Something stank about the whole event. I do think it was orchestrated in some way by the American government, what their actual role was who knows?

Even a real patriot must see the holes ?

It is sort of becoming a bit moon-landey where you have one group saying of course it happened and another group saying , no it didn't

Whatever the circumstances it's just horrible that people died
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