dogsmilk wrote:
I agree that's generally a positive. Though not a necessary and sufficient condition of intelligence par se.
And it doesn't necessarily make you a stand up guy - the Jew theorists on the DIF see themselves in this way and I'm sure they're generally quite sincere with it. BNP members might think they're seeing through government propaganda about multiculturalism - people who regard themselves as 'thinking outside the box' might actually have views more fucked up and repugnant than those who don't think outside the box at all. Now you might say that sort of people are ignorant fuckstains and I'd agree - but the point is they perceive themselves as not taking things at face value and though the conclusions they come to may be warped they may well be operating from a position of not taking things at face value.
Umm no, the BNP crowd believe in false info such as overpopulation without researching it remember?
Just as they believe immigrants and doleys are the problem instead of bankers this despite having years of in your face material oozing out of the mainstream media all over the place showing just how many trillions have been pissed away down a black hole, instead they focus on doleys and immigrants, you cannot seriously consider this in any way intelligent.
Its fucking stupid, get it right.
You need a much better example.
I take it from that you're not self-sufficient then.
I thought your business was around IT? Surely that would make computers pretty darned important to you, no? And what about your customers? Are you telling me you don't rely on them?
The customers provide them, I do in fact know a hell of a lot about computers and can build them from components, I could even probably fabricate a hell of a lot of it...I've built some simple 8 bit machines from raw components at a very low level and can program in binary. There's few ppl I know of capable of that now, I guess it doesn't matter though.
I'll send an e-mail to everyone living on the dole advising them they've failed to earn your respect by not starting a successful business and that they're thick.
If they stay that way forever then yes they won't earn my respect anymore than someone who keeps the same govt PAYE job for the rest of their life.
A lot of people do try and get off the dole and I've nothing against that crowd, the BNP lot would blame them all regardless ofc, this despite themselves being a part of it. The BNP lot just want govt to provide for them and their group instead of everyone. They're all useless wasters in my book.
They were racist bigoted assholes who wanted to dominate the planet and impose their authority on everyone else, just the same as the rest of the leaders we can expect to get because idiots keep voting for them, its that simple DM.
Doesn't mean they weren't intelligent people.
You're really convincing me here
You know it, I know it and the Germans ought to know it after experiencing it first hand, unfortunately that generations died off and they've gone back to popping the blue pill again.
HJ used to think the nazis were smart too, they were just cunts.
Smart is someone who has no need of others.
This part I don't understand - it's not like Germany was somehow a bastion of enlightenment after the war.
I guess all these old Germans being shipped off abroad must all be thickos because they need someone to care for them.. Bunch of losers. Fuck 'em.
"they've gone back to popping the blue pill again" - been internalising dialogue from a glorified mobile phone advert produced by Hollywood? Kinda ironic, no?
Ok so now we've gone from nazi voting brownshirt scum to OAP's who've worked their balls off and getting nothing in return somehow...
Perhaps its because their families don't want anything to do with them or perhaps worse still, they have no family to look after them...just as many people here who do not have kids today will not have anyone to look after them when they're old...food for thought perhaps?
Sure, it takes a lot of smarts to build something that kills people

Yeah it often does. Clever people developed Greek fire, which in its day was an awesome weapon. Clever people developed muskets. Clever people developed the V2. Clever people developed nuclear weapons. Intelligence can go in any direction - you don't have to have any morals at all to be intelligent.
Psychopaths tend to be intelligent people.
Intelligence would value numbers and co-operation rather than destruction...call me cynical lol
Intelligence is about understanding simple things like do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
If you don't see that in people then whats the point in labelling them as intelligent ?

Nazis are intelligent because they want to kill everyone, yeah great that makes a lot of sense....
If that's your definition of intelligence, I think it's not one shared by 99% of the rest of the world. But I guess they're all thick if they don't see it your way.
It certainly bears no relationship whatsoever to IQ.
Exactly yep.
Sorry did I say something about battling it? Or did I say something about sorting yourself out? :
Sorting yourself out is cool.
But the behemoth is not going to go down without a fight.
There'll be no-one left to put up any kind of fight unless they sort their shit out soon one way or the other.
Well thats a pile of doublespeak bullshit if I've ever seen it

What 'conspiracy stuff' do I believe in exactly? <I don't expect an answer to that one btw, I've often been told I'm a conspiracy nutter but then no-ones been able to come up with anything.
Which is typical ofc.....
Well an example would be I know you believe 911 was an inside job. I do not. I don't think that makes you a either thick or a nutter in my eyes.
Ermm nope, I have never said that I know exactly who carried out 911, nor for that matter do I consider it to be important.
I've always downplayed its importance tbh. The only thing I can say with any certainty is that the official version is also bullshit.
That thing you posted the other day where you thought that one guy was that other guy because they looked kinda similar was pretty 'out there' - I don't believe that for a second.
Ah manufactured news with actors, heh, do you want to see a video showing it?
You could have remained with that view prior to 2008, but not since.
After everything thats happened and that has been made public knowledge you can no longer say that such people are in denial.
The evidence is overwhelming I’m afraid, nice to see you have a bit of faith in them but there’s a reason why the average IQ is around 100 you know.
I find that of those people I meet who do question reality they are invariably of high intelligence, they're usually (not always) in skilled work and/or self employed, not religious, not biased, not indoctrinated.
Their level of education doesn't seem to matter much as if anything the successful self employed crowd have little in the way of establishment education but they are invariably very stubborn and independent.
I admire the self reliant crowd like app and gris as they're doing something about their situation, as for 911 and platsic coffins I really couldn't give a shit.
I admire people who strive for independence, admire people who create things for themselves and admire people who are trying to do their own thing.
I also admire ordinary, decent people just trying to get by who try to do good and don't fuck with anyone else - who might be the checkout girl at Tesco
But isn't it uncanny how these evolved super-people are...running their own business...not religious...see themselves as questioning authority...ah...I get it...the benchmark of intelligence...is you! If only we were all like you Andy...how much better the world would be. Have you considered cloning yourself?
Well I already got 4 kids :p
The type of person I mentioned are the ones who will question authority the most and will buck trends.
Like that or not its a fact of life is all.
Andy, running your own business means shit. I mean, good for you & all, but I've known loads of people who run their own business and they're generally just people trying to make a few bob. In fact, a fair few are cunts who've internalised this aspirational, entrepreneurial bullshit and want to have their own expanding business that exploits the labour of others for profit. Dragon's Den is chock full of people trying to start their own business - are you suggesting they're all some kind of more evolved beings?
Are you suggesting thei guy down the road is somehow enlightened because he started up a shop I buy my bread from? Because believe you me, he may be a nice enough bloke but all he's trying to do is make money.
There's this bit in brackets above that said (not all) , that said people who run their own business will understand some rules of the economic game that others will not, IF DESPITE knowing the game is rigged and how to play it to their advantage they still tell the PAYE workers how they are being screwed then they're doing the right thing, if they don't and keep the secret then they're maintaining something that is wrong.
There's a difference between taking advantage of whats available and keeping it to yourself and telling as many others as you can what the advantages are and how they too can 'fuck the system' so to speak.
The more people that do the merrier and that is the difference between me and the 'I'm alright fuck you jack' type of economic liberal such as the Ayn Rand type.
\the ones who run dragons den for example are leeching the blood out of business start ups by pwning them from day one with what is a small investment (tax free remember!) the game is loaded for this cruel vicious bastard and they know it.
They will NEVER tell you how the game works, I WILL, thats the difference, and if you were intelligent you would have seen it by now.
And what's religion got to do with it? I've known shitloads of well clever religious people.
And, not wanting to stereotype, what about all the Muslims running corner shops? There's at least three in my town. They're religious people running small businesses...and there's a fair few of them.
Damn right they are! As are jews...you would think that the BNP crowd would have cottoned on by now but nope...on they go talking shite and being useless spare parts. Always wanting someone else to jim'll fix it for them
Its not so much religion tbh as culture, they're used to hard work and graft, your average brit expects his life handed to him/her on a plate, they want jobs provided for them, they have no idea how to MAKE jobs.
Religion still acts as a divide and conquer technique just as the nazi crowd have succumbed to it, so do fervent religious types.
Some people are not really religious, they might affiliate themselves with it but they don't take it literally. They're growing in number as are the amount of people who don't really practise any religion at all yet they might be spiritual or have life values that are intelligent and that they actually put in to practise. Religion does not do that, instead it says one thing and does another, how many examples do you want?