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Re: This is What we Have to Look Forward to 30 Dec 2012 14:13 #121

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mikey mikey wrote:
I appreciate the skepticism of people like dogsmilk (one of the best posters of this or any other forum I have been a member of) but I also agree that skepticism should be aimed at rational debate and not merely mocking.

I think DM posts very rational arguments personally.

Others not so much.

^This.
I tire of RA and ibasters crap far more tbh.
Gue less so.

The ironic thing is for a long time I've been considered to be the skeptic, I just accept in your face truth of the ilk posted by WUB.
I'm also willing to discuss possibilities or scenarios, I wouldn't necessarily view them as being 'truth' just possibilities.
Conspiracy theories have time and again been proven to be true in the past, they do happen. World leaders, religious leaders and businessmen do indeed cause untold suffering, this is all factual. To deny it is to look far more stupid IMHO. To continue to support it is far more stupid.
Discussing it might not change much if anything but just dissing it and shilling for the establishment that is clearly fucked up is a dumb thing to do tbh. If you want to do that there are plenty of other forums to try, perhaps the BBC.
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Re: This is What we Have to Look Forward to 30 Dec 2012 14:18 #122

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I think you'll find that the BBC HYS aint exactly shilling for the establishment andy :D
Maybe that's why they restrict the topics they have them on so much :D
Today for example, the State is getting an absolute pasting over there :D
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Re: This is What we Have to Look Forward to 30 Dec 2012 17:14 #123

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andyh wrote:
mikey mikey wrote:
I appreciate the skepticism of people like dogsmilk (one of the best posters of this or any other forum I have been a member of) but I also agree that skepticism should be aimed at rational debate and not merely mocking.

I think DM posts very rational arguments personally.

Others not so much.

^This.
I tire of RA and ibasters crap far more tbh.
Gue less so.

The ironic thing is for a long time I've been considered to be the skeptic, I just accept in your face truth of the ilk posted by WUB.
I'm also willing to discuss possibilities or scenarios, I wouldn't necessarily view them as being 'truth' just possibilities.
Conspiracy theories have time and again been proven to be true in the past, they do happen. World leaders, religious leaders and businessmen do indeed cause untold suffering, this is all factual. To deny it is to look far more stupid IMHO. To continue to support it is far more stupid.
Discussing it might not change much if anything but just dissing it and shilling for the establishment that is clearly fucked up is a dumb thing to do tbh. If you want to do that there are plenty of other forums to try, perhaps the BBC.

Andy are you really trying to imply that i'm in some way shilling for the establishment...

Fuck outta here with that bullshit rhetoric, sneak dissin that's the shit I don't like....

I'm just as much a conspiracy theorist as anyone else on this forum so just stop it...

Notice were i left that sandy hook thread which i assume was what Gilly is talking about....
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Re: This is What we Have to Look Forward to 30 Dec 2012 17:21 #124

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andyh wrote:
mikey mikey wrote:
I appreciate the skepticism of people like dogsmilk (one of the best posters of this or any other forum I have been a member of) but I also agree that skepticism should be aimed at rational debate and not merely mocking.

I think DM posts very rational arguments personally.

Others not so much.

^This.
I tire of RA and ibasters crap far more tbh.
Gue less so.

The ironic thing is for a long time I've been considered to be the skeptic, I just accept in your face truth of the ilk posted by WUB.
I'm also willing to discuss possibilities or scenarios, I wouldn't necessarily view them as being 'truth' just possibilities.
Conspiracy theories have time and again been proven to be true in the past, they do happen. World leaders, religious leaders and businessmen do indeed cause untold suffering, this is all factual. To deny it is to look far more stupid IMHO. To continue to support it is far more stupid.
Discussing it might not change much if anything but just dissing it and shilling for the establishment that is clearly fucked up is a dumb thing to do tbh. If you want to do that there are plenty of other forums to try, perhaps the BBC.

Andy are you really trying to imply that i'm in some way shilling for the establishment...

Fuck outta here with that bullshit rhetoric, sneak dissin that's the shit I don't like....

I'm just as much a conspiracy theorist as anyone else on this forum so just stop it...

Notice were i left that sandy hook thread which i assume was what Gilly is talking about....

You've been bumping up ages old threads and talking shite for weeks.
You know it, I know it, everyones seen it by now.
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Re: This is What we Have to Look Forward to 30 Dec 2012 17:33 #125

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You've been bumping up ages old threads and talking shite for weeks.
You know it, I know it, everyones seen it by now.

Yea Andy, Obama gives me $10 a post here and $50 each time i bump a thread... :facepalm:

If i was a shill i would be telling you guys to love the Monarchy because they bring in tourism to the UK.
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Re: This is What we Have to Look Forward to 30 Dec 2012 17:34 #126

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.......... wrote:
Andy are you really trying to imply that i'm in some way shilling for the establishment...

Fuck outta here with that bullshit rhetoric, sneak dissin that's the shit I don't like....

I'm just as much a conspiracy theorist as anyone else on this forum so just stop it...

Notice were i left that sandy hook thread which i assume was what Gilly is talking about....
Well, here is your last post from that thread:

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^^^Ok Nevermind anything logical from that post above this.... :facepalm:

Take that logic and throw it out the windows because it looks like they figured out the conspiracy mystery.

And once again we come to find out it was the Reptilian Shapeshifters responsible for this one also.

If anyone thinks that's helpful, constructive or courteous, or in fact anything other than destructive and mocking, please let me know.

Your behaviour is absolutely puerile, in my opinion. I know for a fact that I'm not alone. Are you willing to take this on board, pay heed to the community, and behave more maturely? I won't hold my breath.
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Re: This is What we Have to Look Forward to 30 Dec 2012 17:52 #127

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WUB you did you not respond to the post above that in the Sandy Hook thread...

No need to cross post that when the Sandy Hook thread is the next post down...:facepalm:
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Re: This is What we Have to Look Forward to 30 Dec 2012 18:00 #128

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I have to say that I agree with Dub's feelings expressed elsewhere. Mr ..... is incapable of behaving sensibly, has paid absolutely no heed to the numerous warning and requests he's received to behave with anything approach an iota of maturity, and will never be willing or able to. If anyone doubts that, just look at the last two posts in this thread. I'm all for giving people a chance, but I honestly think it's gone beyond the point of no return. I can't wait to hear how this is related to the Royal Sceptre...
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Re: This is What we Have to Look Forward to 30 Dec 2012 18:06 #129

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.......... wrote:
andyh wrote:

You've been bumping up ages old threads and talking shite for weeks.
You know it, I know it, everyones seen it by now.

Yea Andy, Obama gives me $10 a post here and $50 each time i bump a thread... :facepalm:

If i was a shill i would be telling you guys to love the Monarchy because they bring in tourism to the UK.

Its never that obvious. Its usually diversionary crap about how there is no conspiracy, that voting is OK while at the same time pinning blame on one particular name or small group while at the same time never ever giving any evidence to back it up.

Its also about putting words in other peoples mouths or by inferring crap that was never said, creating pointless threads, bumping up old threads all over the place and generally just being a pain in the ass.

I doubt anyone gets paid to shill btw, most do it for free, precisely for the reasons I explained to dogsmilk earlier... lol. :p
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Re: This is What we Have to Look Forward to 30 Dec 2012 18:13 #130

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andyh wrote:

Its also about putting words in other peoples mouths or by inferring crap that was never said

Have to say that this in particular grates me on badly and you do it alot RA.
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Re: This is What we Have to Look Forward to 30 Dec 2012 18:27 #131

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Anyway, just to illustrate the extent to which threads get taken off-topic by such behaviour.

What does anyone think of the German care home situation?!
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Re: This is What we Have to Look Forward to 30 Dec 2012 18:29 #132

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Anyway, just to illustrate the extent to which threads get taken off-topic by such behaviour.

What does anyone think of the German care home situation?!

lol well, I did give my 2p about it already, I pretty much agree with the article as it lines up with research I've done earlier about declining fertility rates and greying population.
It all ties in nicely from what I can see.
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Re: This is What we Have to Look Forward to 30 Dec 2012 19:27 #133

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andyh wrote:
mikey mikey wrote:
I appreciate the skepticism of people like dogsmilk (one of the best posters of this or any other forum I have been a member of) but I also agree that skepticism should be aimed at rational debate and not merely mocking.

I think DM posts very rational arguments personally.

Others not so much.

^This.
I tire of RA and ibasters crap far more tbh.
Gue less so.

The ironic thing is for a long time I've been considered to be the skeptic, I just accept in your face truth of the ilk posted by WUB.
I'm also willing to discuss possibilities or scenarios, I wouldn't necessarily view them as being 'truth' just possibilities.
Conspiracy theories have time and again been proven to be true in the past, they do happen. World leaders, religious leaders and businessmen do indeed cause untold suffering, this is all factual. To deny it is to look far more stupid IMHO. To continue to support it is far more stupid.
Discussing it might not change much if anything but just dissing it and shilling for the establishment that is clearly fucked up is a dumb thing to do tbh. If you want to do that there are plenty of other forums to try, perhaps the BBC.
Thanks dude that means quite a lot to me :emb:

I'd just say the main reason we're clashing at the moment is I'm coming out of conspiracy theories again, reigning in my expansive and very haphazard assumptions conclusions about the world, not saying I;m necessarily right, but i feel I'm doing you all a favour one way or the other by encouraging you to question your beliefs. Somebody came into my life recently who was going through a very emotional, psychologically volatile reaction to all this information on the web, so in the interests of being extremely sympathetic with them i've been hyper critical of the ideas they were exposed to online.

WUB I worry you've totally forgotten how to question your beliefs personally, hence we've fallen out a few times, however, knowing this, I have decided to try and nurture your development as best I can from a safe and maintained distance to avoid us falling out.
I hope you can take that onboard I mean no offense.
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Re: This is What we Have to Look Forward to 30 Dec 2012 19:44 #134

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WUB I worry you've totally forgotten how to question your beliefs personally, hence we've fallen out a few times, however, knowing this, I have decided to try and nurture your development as best I can from a safe and maintained distance to avoid us falling out.
I hope you can take that onboard I mean no offense.
Not offended at all. I don't have any beliefs, though, I'm only interested in facts and evidence.
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Re: This is What we Have to Look Forward to 30 Dec 2012 19:45 #135

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WUB I worry you've totally forgotten how to question your beliefs personally, hence we've fallen out a few times, however, knowing this, I have decided to try and nurture your development as best I can from a safe and maintained distance to avoid us falling out.
I hope you can take that onboard I mean no offense.

I agree with this and will also take a step forward to try an explain my "skepticism" better to WUB.
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wake_up_bomb wrote:
I don't have any beliefs, though, I'm only interested in facts and evidence.

^This is an awakened enlightened human being and this is what shills would like to shut up.
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I agree with this and will also take a step forward to try an explain my "skepticism" better to WUB.
I don't have any personal problem with you. What I am trying to explain to you is that if you've coached kids in basketball and they've phoned you up at home like a parent, as you stated elsewhere, then you've done more for America than Obama! That's all I'm trying to make you understand.
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Re: This is What we Have to Look Forward to 30 Dec 2012 20:11 #139

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wake_up_bomb wrote:
I have to say that I agree with Dub's feelings expressed elsewhere. Mr ..... is incapable of behaving sensibly, has paid absolutely no heed to the numerous warning and requests he's received to behave with anything approach an iota of maturity, and will never be willing or able to. If anyone doubts that, just look at the last two posts in this thread. I'm all for giving people a chance, but I honestly think it's gone beyond the point of no return. I can't wait to hear how this is related to the Royal Sceptre...
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I've heard this from you countless times now, I must say you're the only one i've ever heard it from.
You're the only one who makes a point of bringing up the rules.
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andyh wrote:
wake_up_bomb wrote:
I don't have any beliefs, though, I'm only interested in facts and evidence.

^This is an awakened enlightened human being and this is what shills would like to shut up.
Who has ever tried to shut up WUB?
As far as I can see he tried to shut me up, he tried to shut up Dogsmilk yesterday, and now he's going after RA, all of whom advocate an evidence based reassessment of Conspiracy theorist "logic" :think:
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