weather.aol.com/2012/10/26/historic-fran...hreatens-east-coast/

psketti wrote:
obviously not

375,000 people to be evacuated from low lying areas. Sky news, NY mayor live 8pm (UK) NYC is now on 'lockdown'.

There is also this thread on DIF....about HAARP over NYC which I found interesting

www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=226018

Hmmmm....and the elections are only 10 days away???


Jane

They were just saying on the radio that there were to be 1,000,000 people evacuated.

I hope RA is OK.

This a bad beastie this thing?

What rating is it at now?

Dunno, but I just read they're predicting 50 foot + waves.

Gilly wrote:
As an ex-piratic sea-farer, I should say..."A mere 50-foot wave, pah, serve the soup"

But bloody hell if you can't ride on the top of something like that, it' gonna come down on top of you.

Can we all send our thoughts to these people, please?

Gilly wrote:
did they say if thats coastal or in open water? a 50 foot wave makiny land would pulverise the place! :eek:

Lets just hope people get all the less able out and to some-where safe. Have friends that are ex Ganges i loved listening to their sea gabber, made me love the sea even more than i already did

MrsGood wrote:

jhado wrote:
I think it's at a 1 or 2 right now...

www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/super...oast/article4710036/

is 1 or 2 sacary?

Sorry, just busy mopping floor.

It doesn't specify - it's the penultimate paragraph here...

(*Edit* No - just being doltish ! The comment starts by talking of danger to mariners, implying these large areas of exceptionally high waves are predicted for more off shore regions than coastlines.)

www.weather.com/newscenter/tropical/

Extraordinary storm, extremely serious threat
Stu Ostro, Senior Meteorologist, The Weather Channel
Oct 28, 2012 4:17 pm ET
Graphical tropical update: Tropics Watch
(Stu on Twitter | Facebook)
SANDY

- History is being written as an extreme weather event continues to unfold, one which will occupy a place in the annals of weather history as one of the most extraordinary to have affected the United States.

- REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE OFFICIAL DESIGNATION IS NOW OR AT/AFTER LANDFALL -- HURRICANE (INCLUDING IF "ONLY" A CATEGORY ONE), TROPICAL STORM, POST-TROPICAL, EXTRATROPICAL, WHATEVER -- OR WHAT TYPE OF WARNINGS ARE ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE AND NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER -- PEOPLE IN THE PATH OF THIS STORM NEED TO HEED THE THREAT IT POSES WITH UTMOST URGENCY.

- TAKE COASTAL FLOODING EVACUATION ORDERS SERIOUSLY; PREPARE FOR DOWNED TREES AND STRUCTURAL DAMAGE BY OBSERVING TORNADO SAFETY GUIDELINES, I.E. STAYING INSIDE AND GETTING INTO THE LOWEST, MOST-INTERIOR PORTION OF THE BUILDING OR ANOTHER DESIGNATED SAFE PLACE; BE KEENLY AWARE OF YOUR LOCATION'S SUSCEPTIBILITY TO FLASH FLOODING (URBAN AND SMALL STREAM) FROM RAINFALL AND RIVER RISES; KNOW THAT YOU COULD BE WITHOUT POWER FOR A LONG TIME BUT ALSO UNDERSTAND THE DANGERS OF CARBON MONOXIDE POISONING FROM IMPROPER USE OF GENERATORS.

- With Sandy having already brought severe impacts to the Caribbean Islands and a portion of the Bahamas, and severe erosion to some beaches on the east coast of Florida, it is now poised to strike the northeast United States with a combination of track, size, structure and strength that is unprecedented in the known historical record there.

- Already, there are ominous signs: trees down in eastern North Carolina, the first of countless that will be blown over or uprooted along the storm's path; and coastal flooding in Florida, North Carolina and Virginia, these impacts occurring despite the center of circulation being so far offshore, an indication of Sandy's exceptional size and potency.

- A meteorologically mind-boggling combination of ingredients is coming together: one of the largest expanses of tropical storm (gale) force winds on record with a tropical or subtropical cyclone in the Atlantic or for that matter anywhere else in the world; a track of the center making a sharp left turn in direction of movement toward New Jersey in a way that is unprecedented in the historical database, as it gets blocked from moving out to sea by a pattern that includes an exceptionally strong ridge of high pressure aloft near Greenland; a "warm-core" tropical cyclone embedded within a larger, nor'easter-like circulation; and eventually tropical moisture and arctic air combining to produce heavy snow in interior high elevations. This is an extraordinary situation, and I am not prone to hyperbole.

- That gigantic size is a crucially important aspect of this storm. The massive breadth of its strong winds will produce a much wider scope of impacts than if it were a tiny system, and some of them will extend very far inland. A cyclone with the same maximum sustained velocities (borderline tropical storm / hurricane) but with a very small diameter of tropical storm / gale force winds would not present nearly the same level of threat or expected effects. Unfortunately, that's not the case. This one's size, threat, and expected impacts are immense.

- Those continue to be: very powerful, gusty winds with widespread tree damage and an extreme amount and duration of power outages; major coastal flooding from storm surge along with large battering waves on top of that and severe beach erosion; flooding from heavy rainfall; and heavy snow accumulations in the central Appalachians.

- Sandy is so large that there is even a tropical storm warning in effect in Bermuda, and the Bermuda Weather Service is forecasting wave heights outside the reef as high as 30'.

- There is a serious danger to mariners from a humongous area of high seas which in some areas will include waves of colossal height. Wave forecast models are predicting significant wave heights up to 50+ feet, and that is the average of the top 1/3, meaning that there will be individual waves that are even higher. The Perfect Storm, originally known as the Halloween Storm because of the time of year when it occurred, peaking in 1991 on the same dates (October 28-30) as Sandy, became a part of popular culture because of the tragedy at sea. This one has some of the same meteorological characteristics and ingredients coming together, but in an even more extreme way, and slamming more directly onshore and then much farther inland and thus having a far greater scope and variety of impacts.

WESTERN PACIFIC

- On the other side of the world, after bringing to the Philippines its own share of severe impacts, Typhoon Son-tinh is headed into northern Vietnam and then the nearby part of China.

Gilly wrote:
Think somebody is getting a bit over excited in the newsroom there Gilly.
Besides being a huricane which has already claimed 60+ lives in Haiti, it is the storm surge combined with a full moon which will make it even higher, which is the danger to low lying land. It is a pretty unique combination of factors when it comes to meteorology....but meh, I am sure Mother Nature has a lot more surprises in store for us. I just hope RA is being sensible if he's in any of the red zones. Some people have been evacuated already, the 375,000 are on top of those.


Jane

jhado wrote:
Doesn't sound scary, but I bet as your tying your ass to an anchor and a wall of water comes at you it can be pretty scary.

angelchemuel wrote:
Oh shit
Didn't realise there was a full moon too in operation

MrsGood wrote:
Me neither, fuck!!

jhado wrote:
Fuck off i'd have checked that baby if i lived any-where near NY and got the fuck outta there and told as many people on my way to get the fuck out, too

"October 29th Full Hunter's Moon 3:50 pm "
www.farmersalmanac.com/full-moon-dates-and-times/

"GRAND RAPIDS, MI — As Hurricane Sandy barrels toward the nation’s East Coast, one worry is that Monday’s full moon could worsen coastal flooding that is expected to reach life-threatening levels.

Forecasters locally already have warned of Sandy’s adverse impacts on the Lake Michigan shoreline, with waves up to 10 feet and gale-force winds expected by Monday evening.

Because of the full moon's extra push on oceanic tides, forecasters said flooding from the hurricane could be even worse.

It might stand to reason, in one’s head, that the dodgy lake conditions are likewise tied to the pull of the full moon — known as the “Hunter’s Moon” — but that’s not quite right.

“It’s a very good question,” said Nathan Jeruzal, a meteorologist with the National Weather Service in Grand Rapids.

But, the full moon “doesn’t have much of a noticeable impact on the Great Lakes,” Jeruzal said.

Forecasters expect a roiled Lake Michigan into Monday night, with blustery winds buffeting the lakeshore and waters churning into 10-foot waves.

That is certainly a byproduct of Hurricane Sandy, forecasters said, but not, as Jeruzal put it, a result of the Hunter’s Moon.

Forecasts call for a slight chance of rain and possibly light snow Monday evening, but should clouds be sparse, Michigan skywatchers should be able to glimpse the full moon.

The Hunter’s Moon is so-called, according to the Farmer’s Almanac, because of its use by American Indian hunters “many moons ago.”

“The leaves are falling from trees, the deer are fattened, and it’s time to begin storing up meat for the long winter ahead,” the Farmer’s Almanac explains. “Because the fields were traditionally reaped in late September or early October, hunters could easily see fox and other animals that come out to glean from the fallen grains.”

www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2012/10/post_294.html

Jane

Our cousin is here for a few days, from Texas. He looked at that and said "Damn glad I aint got my home in NY right now"