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Re: Julian Assange Ecuadorian embassy raid? 16 Aug 2012 13:30 #21

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I can't see the police entering the Ecuadorian embassy. Big mistake if they do.
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Re: Julian Assange Ecuadorian embassy raid? 16 Aug 2012 13:33 #22

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Gilly wrote:
A couple of interesting bits here, including speculation that Assange may possibly have switched places with a pizza delivery man & scooted off on his bicycle...
His escape plan may have a flaw.
I tried to get cycling directions from London to Quito, Ecuador but Google maps failed.
"We could not calculate directions between London, UK and Quito Canton, Ecuador."

:(
Last Edit: 16 Aug 2012 13:40 by feather.
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Re: Julian Assange Ecuadorian embassy raid? 16 Aug 2012 13:37 #23

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The Ecuador President is holding the UK to just about every International law, bill of rights and treaty.

As a country we are about to go the way of John Bolton. :(
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Re: Julian Assange Ecuadorian embassy raid? 16 Aug 2012 13:39 #24

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andyh wrote:
feather wrote:

McKinnon's case is a bit more complex because of his obvious Aspergers issues. Not sure what the outcome will be there.

Sam as Bradley Manning, he'll be put in prison permanently and they'll hope we just forget about them .
Ya think?

McKinnon admitted he was digging around for UFO/Alien records. It would be easy for them to dismiss him as "a bit mental", annoying security breach but not much fallout from his actions.

Assange and Manning however opened huge cans of worms and had them grovelling and scrambling for cover.
They'll want revenge for that big time.
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Re: Julian Assange Ecuadorian embassy raid? 16 Aug 2012 13:42 #25

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feather wrote:
andyh wrote:
feather wrote:

McKinnon's case is a bit more complex because of his obvious Aspergers issues. Not sure what the outcome will be there.

Sam as Bradley Manning, he'll be put in prison permanently and they'll hope we just forget about them .
Ya think?

McKinnon admitted he was digging around for UFO/Alien records. It would be easy for them to dismiss him as "a bit mental", annoying security breach but not much fallout from his actions.

Assange and Manning however opened huge cans of worms and had them grovelling and scrambling for cover.
They'll want revenge for that big time.

There's been other such people in the past who were dismissed in the way you mention.
It suggests McKinnon saw something or they wouldn't be interested imho. It might not have been about UFO's.
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Re: Julian Assange Ecuadorian embassy raid? 16 Aug 2012 13:42 #26

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Granted by the President of Ecuador :cheer: :bounce: :urok: :cheers:
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Re: Julian Assange Ecuadorian embassy raid? 16 Aug 2012 13:44 #27

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mikey mikey wrote:
The Ecuador President is holding the UK to just about every International law, bill of rights and treaty.

As a country we are about to go the way of John Bolton. :(

Britain has been circumventing International law and convention for quite a while.......
The time is now people. Time to ram it up their poopshutes.
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Re: Julian Assange Ecuadorian embassy raid? 16 Aug 2012 13:45 #28

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andyh wrote:
There's been other such people in the past who were dismissed in the way you mention.
It suggests McKinnon saw something or they wouldn't be interested imho. It might not have been about UFO's.
Aye true mate.
You'd think they'd just come right out and tell us .......

Ohh!
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Re: Julian Assange Ecuadorian embassy raid? 16 Aug 2012 13:46 #29

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mikey mikey wrote:
Granted by the President of Ecuador :cheer: :bounce: :urok: :cheers:
Now all they have to do it get him past all the police and ports to Ecuador.

Game on.
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Re: Julian Assange Ecuadorian embassy raid? 16 Aug 2012 13:50 #30

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The UK is now in a position to put at risk many of their Embassies around the world.

International Law of the Viena convention trumps both our legal obligation to the European arrest decision and their own obscure Embassy bashing law (which was only used in cases of violence and terrorism) so the legal case is clear.
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Re: Julian Assange Ecuadorian embassy raid? 16 Aug 2012 13:52 #31

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feather wrote:
mikey mikey wrote:
Granted by the President of Ecuador :cheer: :bounce: :urok: :cheers:
Now all they have to do it get him past all the police and ports to Ecuador.

Game on.

If they had any sense they would have done it all already :)
I can't see how he's getting out unless they have scotty and a teleporter in there if he's not already gone :D
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Re: Julian Assange Ecuadorian embassy raid? 16 Aug 2012 13:54 #32

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mikey mikey wrote:
The UK is now in a position to put at risk many of their Embassies around the world.

International Law of the Viena convention trumps both our legal obligation to the European arrest decision and their own obscure Embassy bashing law (which was only used in cases of violence and terrorism) so the legal case is clear.

Yes, it's an unbelievably stupid act that is bound to have repercussions for British embassies all around the world. And all for the sake of the one-way "special relationship". :roll:
"Question everything"... except chemtrails, holographic planes, lizards, hollow moon spaceships...
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Calls for the resignation of the Billy Hague the Foreign Sickratery :ownd:
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Re: Julian Assange Ecuadorian embassy raid? 16 Aug 2012 13:57 #34

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dreamweaver wrote:
And all for the sake of the one-way "special relationship". :roll:

It really makes the UK foreign policy clear:

@USA: anything you say.

@rest of the World: fuck you
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Re: Julian Assange Ecuadorian embassy raid? 16 Aug 2012 14:00 #35

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mikey mikey wrote:
Calls for the resignation of the Billy Hague the Foreign Sickratery :ownd:

No disrespect to JA but those calls should have been coming last week at the latest.
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Re: Julian Assange Ecuadorian embassy raid? 16 Aug 2012 14:08 #36

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agreed dub :yupgrin:
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Re: Julian Assange Ecuadorian embassy raid? 16 Aug 2012 14:24 #37

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andyh wrote:
feather wrote:
mikey mikey wrote:
Granted by the President of Ecuador :cheer: :bounce: :urok: :cheers:
Now all they have to do it get him past all the police and ports to Ecuador.

Game on.

If they had any sense they would have done it all already :)
I can't see how he's getting out unless they have scotty and a teleporter in there if he's not already gone :D

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Re: Julian Assange Ecuadorian embassy raid? 16 Aug 2012 14:44 #38

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"...Legal expert and former U.K. government lawyer Carl Gardner wrote on Twitter: "It's hard to think how Assange could leave the embassy, escape arrest and get on a plane. Except as Ecuador's new representative to the U.N."

Should Assange remain in Ecuadorian diplomatic territory, such as within an Ecuadorian diplomatic car between the embassy and an airport, Assange could potentially remain free from U.K. intervention. However, British police could still halt the vehicle to force him back onto U.K. soil.
Opinion is also split on whether the U.K. is duty bound under U.N. human rights legislation to allow Assange protected passage from the country if asylum is granted..."

"...The U.K. Foreign Secretary William Hague can remove legal status from any embassy without needing to take the matter to Parliament, according to section 1(3) of the law, provided the U.K. complied with international law.
"We are in uncharted territory here," said Gardner on BBC's Radio 4 morning show."

news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-57494222-38/w...d-asylum-in-ecuador/
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Re: Julian Assange Ecuadorian embassy raid? 16 Aug 2012 14:47 #39

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Gilly wrote:
Except as Ecuador's new representative to the U.N


lol yeh they could give him a job and diplomatic passport that would actually be one way round it.

The alternative is to squeeze him into a diplomatic bag :D
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